Archive for November 10th, 2008

If Hleb and Flamini had stayed put…

Monday, November 10th, 2008

Of course these conditional exercises are difficult to see through - there are always far too many variables, but still it is interesting to look at the options…

Thinking of Hleb I think we would have been far worse off. Nasri would not have been signed, and we would have had a lot of dribbles, but how much more penetration? Would we have had Nasri’s goals? - I think not. The balance of the team with Hleb dribbling but Theo running like the wind would not have been so balanced I think. Of course I can’t tell for sure, but it looks and feels much more balanced with Theo on one side and Nasri (ie Pires II) on the other.

For me Hleb out, Nasri in, is a brilliant trade.

Flamini is different - and I can already hear the suggestion that with him on board we would not have lost three games. Maybe. But there would also have been some down sides.

To have kept Flamini the wage structure would have gone, which would mean everyone would have then demanded pay rises, and that would have disrupted everything. Quite possibly Adebayor would have wanted more, and then if the club didn’t want to go that far (just as quite rightly in my opinion it offered A Cole “only” 50 grand per week,) he might have gone. So might anyone else. How would we have felt if Clichy had said, “well if Flamini is worth an extra £20k a week, so am I”.

So certainly disruption in the squad - although who knows where that would have got to.

Then the issue of Diaby, Song and Denilson. Because of Flamini going the players who have occupied that space in midfield would not have. Diaby may be a false issue because he could have still done is magic trick of playing midfield centre forward with Flamini there - although I can’t see it working as well as it does with Denilson.

Denilson probably would have started to pack his bags, and Song would have known his only chance was at centre half.

Of course, 3 wins instead of 3 defeats would have put us top of the league and 3 points clear, so maybe Flamini in but Denilson and Song out would be worth that. But… I am not sure.

It is all imponderable I know, but I just wonder if we did not see the very best of Flamini last season - certainly Milan didn’t throw him straight into their team, which you might have expected. I haven’t noted the teams for the last couple of Milan games, but prior to that Flamini was a bit player for them - just as he was for us in the first two seasons.

Of course he might have made it big again this year, as he did last season, but there is just that niggle at the back of my mind that he might have drifted back to how he was the year before. He had two rather ordinary seasons with us, and then suddenly it happened. The only other player who I can think of who did that was Hleb. Pires came good after one ordinary year. Henry much the same. Vieira came good after 30 seconds of his game as substitute. I am not sure about what happens when it takes you two years to produce something good.

Certainly watching Denilson against Manchester Bankrupt what I saw (and I represent a whole one sixtythousandth of the ensemble) was a player of stunning talent coming to life. A player who is going to give us something rare and special in the coming years - a player who is going to be quite extraordinary.

With Diaby, I am just bemused. I had no idea he could play as he does, shuttling between front line and midfield. No wonder the poor guy got substituted in the Bankrupts game - he had run miles and miles. I think here too we have something unique.

So, overall, maybe, just maybe, with Flamini we might have beaten the three teams that beat us. But that is based on the premise that Flamini would stay on top form, and not slip back. And if he did it would have been at a cost.

Nasri to me looks like a player I can idolise for years to come, and I am so delighted to have him, rather than Hleb. If, in some mythical world of otherness, the deal was to have both Hleb and Flam or neither, I think I am tilting strongly towards neither.

Which of course is just meandering dribble, but I am about to go out and play with the band, and felt I wanted to say something before I left.

Hopefully the new moderation arrangements are more to your satisfaction. If you want to say something, please do drop me a line.

Tony

Anotther day, another crisis

Monday, November 10th, 2008

Except today’s crisis isn’t at Arsenal - its with Manchester City who have spent the megabillions and don’t seem to win very many matches.

There is talk of their manager known (in this house at least) as The Ooze, being given the push.  Ever since he had his spat with Cesc and asked for an apology (which Cesc gave him) he has looked a bit of a dope - and so it is seeming.

And what a relief that it is not Arsenal that is the heart of the crisis today - which shows how (to reduce Harold Wilson’s phrase) 90 minutes is a long time in football.   The media have successfully forced us all to think that success today is everything.  Planning, organisation… it all counts for nothing.  Everything is NOW NOW NOW.

For me, perhaps because I’m older, broader perspectives are more important.  Arsenal have now played eight games at the Ems against the likes of the Bankrupts, the Insolvents and CSKA, and they haven’t been beaten.   True, we have lost to WH Nutters and Hull City, which is not good news, but it does say that things are not quite as bad as was suggested last week.  (There was incidentally a great “keep the faith” banner at the Ems on saturday, and that just about sums up my mood). Overall I think we look great as a team, and as a club, and that gives me real hope in terms of what might happen next.

Had we lost to the Bankrupts we would have entered tuesdays game with the media saying it will be a relief to get away from the unremitting gloom of our European and EPL campaigns.   But we won so now we can turn to “the latest gems that Wenger has unearthed” from the “never ending Arsenal production line” and all that usual stuff.

In addition to the team that meandered through Sheffield Untidy we might get a look at Ayling (who for some reason came off early in the last reserve game), Bischoff (played 3 reserve games on the trot, scored a great goal in the last, and looks fully recovered from his injury), Coquelin (who played in pre-season and is looking strong) and the improving Lansbury.

Trouble is we can’t play 15 players at once - and it is the midfield that is looking particularly strong at the moment.  I was hoping at one time that Eduardo might put in an appearance, but it looks a week or so too early for him.   But not long now.

As noted yesterday, I have now changed the moderation process.  It will hopefully still catch the spam and abuse, but make life easier elsewhere.  The maths questions stay, and if you haven’t successfully posted twice before your comment will be held for moderation - but after that you should be able to post straight off.

Tony