what would have been more tricky for them (uefa) is if we hadnt appealed. the door would have been open.

the fa are happy, the outrages at west ham were quietly swept under the carpet whilst we were under the spotlight. now they have the ‘ade’ controversy to fill their pages and airtime, so westham will inevitably get forgotten.

whats the betting eddy still gets booed at games by ignorant fans. he should sue them for defamation or somesuch.

as far as all you worriers out there, just hold your position. get a grip, let the anger at saturdays defeat subside and look up to wednesday. another 90 minutes of watching the team we support.

i note that the current batch of doomers are at least articulate. Untold Arsenal: where you get a better quality of doomers.

and finally, arsene wenger is my hero. how can you not admire a man who is willing to die by his own sword? i believe in his vision. it’s what makes supporting arsenal so much better than supporting any other team in the world. he creates beautiful football, and he wins. he does it all with uncompromising dignity, intelligence, and class.

i can understand the anti-Wenger complaints, and I feel that many of are valid. but my question is, would you be OK becoming a Chelsea or Man City?

winning with money is nothing special. money allows average managers to paper-over their teams’ cracks (hi Redknapp and Hughes). but winning the Wenger way is.

Tony – I concur with you in general about the rash of anti-Wenger postings, i.e. that they are not totally spontaneous. Between Saturday and Monday, there have been a rash of new posters with various random names, reflecting diverse national origins, but consistently maintaining three (3) talking points:
Wenger has lost it – by his unwillingness to spend.
The current squad isn’t good enough – we need to spend big on older players.
The Board is the problem because they won’t splash the cash.

The fact that three weeks ago most of these posters were completely unknown and most Arsenal fans were over the moon about Wenger and the performances of the current team makes you wonder. Either our fans are totally schizophrenic or there are manipulators and imposters having a field day stoking the fire on the myriad, stupid ant-Arsenal, anti-Wenger blogs around.

My belief is also long long overdue…if you let me choose any particular 10 year period in club’s history, it is Wenger’s ten years.

Are we that bad?

Anti-Wenger really believe in themselves to be intelligent fans who look down in their fellow supporters…while I like Wenger’s tactics and doings less lately, I still believe we re a unique club which don’t and will never follow anything or anyone.

We played ugly to win in a time of beautiful-craving era led by Ajax…we played beautifully in a time of only-winning matters…

Have we become a club in which we need to win to justify everything? And with all the talks about failure, A LOT of people forgot that in this so called bad time we reached a CL final, reached a mickey mouse cup with kids, and came mighty close to win the league before injuries led by Eduardo ruined everything?

No, this is not an excuse to love Wenger, it’s just that I see potential there, a potential to win it our own way that drives me to believe….what if we spend 100 mil on 5 players and not win? And win? Are we like Chelski and the new richy rich? Do u want to us to be?

You tell us to see the past 4 years….why don’t you look at 10 years then? Why don’t u look at how we lost in CL final that we all suffered together? Whose fault is that? We’ve become what we are by making profits on players, winning trophies more than any other team but man u on the way? We re a failing club only if you want us to be…

Go ahead ask for Wenger’s head if you gave a gut…but I believe no one will. Hiddink?? Wow, no thanks.

And Tony is right, why do we have to justify ourseleves,

I saw many of our own fans calling our players names, what did they ever do to you? They might not be what you want but we didn’t buy them with a high price tag…and they’re still very young…

Wenger has many flaws recently, tactically i’d like him to be more opened with his selection…and he could save himself alot of headaches with a couple more players..

But I don’t WAIT for MY team to lose and then come out…fine but don’t celebrate when be got it right and we win then.

This week’s focus should be on how we lost and that scum…I don’t see alot of you depressers single him out like you did with wenger and players…and why the Hell is that???

That bitch did to us much much worse…he showed us all a finger and criminally tried to hurt our best players…but no, Wenger is a bigger cunt to you.

Sometimes, I wish you would look at yourselves of how you treated your own team, manager, and own fans…we all love to win, but we don’t wait for failure just to come out and have a few cracks at the man…

If we don’t win I know ill see you again but when we do win something whenever it may come, where will u be then?

We have rights to support and believe…

I think they realised what consequences it would have if they had upheld the ban. W*nkers. Media driven idiots.

‘Not established’
Following examination of all the evidence, notably the declarations of both the referee and the referees’ assessor, as well as the various video footage, it was not established to the panel’s satisfaction that the referee had been deceived in taking his decision on the penalty.

Decision annulled
Therefore, the decision of the UEFA Control and Disciplinary Body of 1 September, in which the player was suspended for two UEFA club competition matches, is annulled.”

Sorry this is cut & paste from Newsnow re Uefa.com

Good news eh!
What will those c**ts at ITV make of that?

Furthermore, what has become clear today is that there is a group of people who are posting anti-Wengerian articles everywhere, without any reference to the debate going on, on individual sites virtually at random. I really don’t see why this site (which actually has provided a place where such debate can continue under the “Apology” article), should suffer from their random attacks which don’t even get posted in the right place.

Tomorrow’s article follows the corruption theme, and focuses on the England manager. If the debate is taken over again by anti-Wenger correspondents, then I will remove the posts on other topics. As always I am open to Arsenal supporters who support Wenger who want to post in their own articles. I don’t publish them all but quite a few get published here – just email them to me.

I do hope regular readers understand what I am doing and why I am doing it. I believe a pro-Wenger site which also explores issues in football which get ignored elsewhere is of value, and I would like to keep it going in the manner in which it has always proclaimed itself.

Tony

you might be interested in this little gem.

kameron (Arsenal fan)
Posted Today @ 16:25 View all kameron’s posts

some of the posters here are simply mental and caught up in the total idiocy and illogic in his posts has chosen to sign-off. It is typical ¿fickle-fan¿ syndrome. When things go well they are over the top but if there is the slightest wobble the club is destined for the championship and Wenger must be sacked immediately. Frankly Ivor and their ilk are simply Spud fans dressed up in red. I am the first to admit that the team, including Wenger, made some mistakes on Saturday but it could easily have been a different game if we got the breaks that we deserved; red card to Ade for stamping Cesc and then Van Persie later or that blatant handball by Barry in the box etc. But a class team doesnt become Campionship fodder overnight. Any true Arsenal fan will tell you that if there is only one manger who can turn this around, without sacrificing our principles, and that is Arsene Wenger. As recent as last year after we lost 3-0 to City, Wenger turned it around and we went on a 20 plus game unbeaten run, pushing Aston Villa into the dust by the way. I expect no less this year, just as I expect we will have one or more setbacks. Afteralll this is life not the fantasy many harbour of easily replicating our year of invincibility.

NB: your reference to Ivor is also repeated.How much more blatant can you get.

No prison for Ade, I feel. No doubt the FA/Pl will decide, erroneously that RVP’s tackle was worth a red card & Ade was just trying to get out of the way.

The article is particularly informative, in as much as I didn’t realise the football authorities now have the technology to know what a player was thinking. What times we live in.

I wonder if anyone knows what was in Kevin Davies’ head when he engineered a penalty at Pompey. We do know however that it never enters an Englishman’s head to dive, especially a real man like Davies. I suppose they don’t bother to program the technology for that, because it never happens.

Happily this is pro Arsenal & AW supporting blog which is a comforting refuge, occasionally upset by Doomers, who neither have the manners to stay on or even start on topic.

Fortunately as we don’t lose that many matches they don’t have much opportunity to spread their uneducated, short sighted bile.

It really is such a shame that the likes of Ivor & Damn_Gallas have no real feeling for the game of football. It is always so simplistic for them. Throw some money in the air & down comes a quadruple winning football team.

Just enjoy the game, for what it is, & see where we are at the end of the season.

No one wants to be filled with your negative crap.

call me a rose tinter but I think we got a great squad, maybe keeper and DMF strengthening but not that much work needs to be done. Arshavin, Cesc, gael, Rosicky, Gallas.. to name a few. We have some class players, its all about weither we can bounce back from these 2 unlucky defeats!

Not too happy with blaise attitude about losing any game though, especially games where we play close to our best!! I still think we need to be more solid in defence and to work at defending as a team. Now if we do that we will do very well this season, because I can feel an optimism amongst us the fans, but amongst the players too and that is very important.

We just need to be more careful not to lose too many games, which will start to damage our confidence and then there could be problems. I want to be realistic and to talk about our performances and our chances of success realistically. I dont believe in being carried away by a few good performances at the begining of a very long season.

However we are the best footballers in the whole country thats why it pains me to see us lose any game. If we sort out our defensive play, not just our defenders, then we really can produce results where it matters, not just quality football!!