On to the SKY issue, anyone else notice that SKY now almost never have Charlie Nicholas on to talk about anything involving Arsenal(he only is on as part of the soccer saturday panel), Kenny Samsom and Nigel Winterburn have also been dropped by them, they will have Merson and Smith on, now consider what Nicholas, Samson and Winterburn have in common, they fight the Arsenal corner with all their might, then consider Merson and Smith, they will go with what the majority are saying, one(mrson) cos he is so unsure of himself that he sees others opinions as having more value than his and the other(smith) is smart enough to know that when he spoke in favour of Arsenal he got less work from sky so he now says what he thinks they want him to say.

I can’t agree about Gray and Tyler though. They were better about five years ago.

I think there is a much more aggressive media policy in play at the club now. The RvP comments immediately post MCity were clearly drafted by a lawyer. Looks like the club under Gazidis is getting its act together more to counter the negativity.

Oh and the game. The purposeful rotation of players (RvP, Denilson, Sagna, Gibbs) made sense with Wigan on Saturday. The team faced a typical (very committed) Eur team which played with 10 or 11 behind the ball for most of the match. That takes time to break down and one needs to watch the last 15 mins very closely as that is when it usually either happens or doesn’t with a tiring defence. When the energy levels are up you have to expect Std Liege to make a game of it, and they did. Its early season but many have already played a lot of games, twice a week every week (Gallas, TV, Cesc, Bendtner). Arsenal still managed 70% possession and Cesc 2 assists. Crisis! what crisis?

But to complain when guys pulled off a recovery like this is criminal.Some of our supporters get things they hear from Chelski and manure to argue on here. Any wonder that we are accused of being silent at our stadium whenever the team is are the cosh?

I was encouraged by Rossicky’s game and enjoying seeing his marvelous runs and passes that were spoilt or lost. I cant wait to see him playing with Ashavin and Wilshere in the same team. That would be amazing to see unusual creativity of our team.

I’ve never been able to take anything he says seriously since.

Really sorry – if you take a look at some of my comments above, you’ll see I am having a bit of a tough day with the forces of spam.

That never really comes across on TV.

Debbie: I do see your point. Sometimes, I think, frustratingly, that Arsenal is the most unlucky club in the premiership to have all these never-pleased fans. Nothing the Arsenal does makes those fans happy. They seem to believe too much of their own & other anti-Arsenal hypes. Sad.

Shota & Armin: You both aptly capture the essence of what happened yesterday. Some people are hypo, as well as over, critical of the team no matter what they try to do. Bad things happen, often when you don’t want them to. should we kill our team because of what happened in the first five minutes? Hell No. Should we throw the baby out with the mucky birth water because of the muck? Hell No. The team pulled together, showed gut to attempt a come back and achieved it. I have seen Chavski praised for far less. And damn it, I have even seen ManUre showered with glory for a whole lot less come back. 3 points in the bag. Thankful! Thankful!! Thankful!!!

As for the people who are happing on about the luck of the second goal; What if it is luck? Don’t we deserve any? Have you lot stop to look at it from a different perspective? Standard liege second goal was luck for them; Why? Well because the contact, or lack thereof, for which the penalty was awarded was actually just outside of the box. Take a look in slow motion and you will see. So, the refree & linesman (sorry I can’t call them anything else) must have that at the back of their minds when they allowed Arsenal her own luck for her own second goal. What’s wrong with that? Makes it even, doesn’t it? What’s good for the goose and all that!

So we take the 3 points anywhich way. Thank you very much. ManUre have been accepting them for years. It is about time Arsenal fans learn to accept them as well.

This reminded me of an old fashioned cup tie, away against a lower but decent team, in a very intimidating atmosphere. The sort of game we regularly lost pre-Wenger. It was also reminiscent of European games like Mallorca, Panathinaikos,Rosenburg where we either lost or drew with the likes of PV4 & TH14.

The fact is these games are difficult & too many of the anti support just expect us to stroll through them in brilliant style all the time.

We got caught cold, which can happen to any team. Eds flick was foolish but what would the reaction have been if it had set up a brilliant counter attack to put us ahead? Eboue lost possession & Gallas was clumsy, c’est la vie. 2-0 down task even harder with the opposition sky high on adrenaline.

We looked poor because they played well but also had to use up a lot of energy in closing us down. After that disastrous start we controlled the game, albeit clumsily & they only had 1 further real chance, just after half time.

Yes it was not an easy on the eye performance but our opening goal was an excellent one. Diaby did brilliantly for that.

After that we were always going to reap the benefit in the closing stages, because they had been run ragged.

There are many ways to win football matches, we tried to play our game & it paid off in the end.

It seems to be forgotten that AW was not able to select the side he probably would have wanted for this tie. For me, it was crying out for Walcott or Vela because even though they packed their defence we frequently got behind them.

Not a game to cherish & yes a few bad performances but from reports I have seen not many merit marks for Liverpool or Chelsea either.

You said

“Following the Man City game I wrote to this site and spoke about the need to support rather than cast rabid fanaticism… My comments were moderated out, presumably in favour of an article with more four-lettered words of wisdom; hardly even-handed.”

I was worried by this statement and have just spent a spot of time checking. Apart from your two very recent posts, no emails have been received from the email address you used today.

I have checked through the 2000 odd spams received this season, and there is nothing there at all.

I don’t delete items unless

a) they are copied from another site
b) they are straight adverts
c) they come from one of a small number of IP addresses which generate anti-Arsenal material all day long.

So, no, you are wrong. I did not moderate you out. Either there was a tech fault and your message didn’t get to me (not something I have experienced, but possible) or it was sent to the wrong address.

I would say to everyone, if you post, and your post does not appear, and you want to know why, email Tony@hamilton-house.com and I will look into it. I don’t monitor the site 24 hours a day (I work, I dance, I watch football, I go to the theatre, I visit my children and grandchildren) but I do try and provide a reasonable service.

And do remember – it is free – a labour of love. I don’t think I deserve to be accused of removing a post “presumably in favour of an article with more four-lettered words of wisdom”. I doubt that there are many swear words in my posts. Maybe you are confusing UNTOLD ARSENAL with another site.

Earlier today you said, “We win and still the village idiots on here are not happy”, and looking at your IP address I thought, blimey, one of the people writing out of that particular IP address is actually writing something positive.

And then no sooner have I allowed your piece through than you are back on the official line which is “Cesc looking like he didn’t even want to be there” and “I seriously think his move to Barca could be even nearer”.

So, like the men in UEFA who can judge what goes on in Eduardo’s mind, you can judge what goes on in Cesc’s mind. Not very likely in my opinion.

So, you are a village idiot – by your own definition.

Tony