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Untold Media: Frimpong attacks Piers Morgan: the full report
By: Anne (with thanks to Mahdain for the link that led to this article)
Can we have a round of applause for Emmanuel Frimpong, please?! Following Arsenal’s FA cup loss, Emmanuel Frimpong personally took on the anti-Arsenal media on twitter, saying some things that we here at Untold Media have wanted to say to them for a long time.
Rather than waste time with a lot of my own commentary, I’ll just turn it over to Emmanuel, and re-post his twitter exchange with journalist Piers Morgan in full. (*I’m removing the “twitter” lingo and just posting this as a regular conversation).
Also, it’s really revealing to see exactly how nasty Piers is when speaking to Emmanuel. And he calls himself an Arsenal fan?!:
The whole thing started when Piers Morgan unleashed the following series of vitriolic tweets attacking Arsene Wenger, which sound as if they were read from a “script” (to use Frimpong’s word):
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“-As for Arsenal’s latest debacle – I said Martin O’Neill could replace Wenger months ago, and got ridiculed for it. Who’s laughing now?
-The ‘Wenger must have job for life’ brigade are looking more ruinous to Arsenal’s future by the day. Wake up, before it’s too late.
-I respect Wenger’s record for us as much as anyone. But he’s run out of ideas, and we’ve run out of trophies. Time for change
-Who could replace Wenger? Mourinho, Guardiola, O’Neill, Redknapp. There’s 4 for starters.
-Let me spell it out for the few blinkered Arsenal fans still giving me grief: without Robin Van Persie’s goals, we’d be 15th in the Prem.
-And if we don’t qualify for CL, as seems likely right now, then Robin Van Persie will leave. Fact. And then what?
-New manager now can give the team the kick up the a** it needs, get 4th place, keep Robin Van Persie and rebuild for the future.
-Better Wenger leaves now, while we all still love and respect him, than watch this horrible deterioration get worse and worse”
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At this point, Emmanuel Frimpong jumped into the debate, and pretty much told Piers Morgan what’s what:
“Frimpong:
Stop chatting soo much rubbish you. You know nothing about football. You sit behind your laptop and just talk utter rubbish.
Piers Morgan:
Oh really, Mr Frimpong? Well truth hurts, sunshine. And I’m not afraid to tell it. (you can’t even get in THIS Arsenal team)
Frimpong:
Just don’t bring your ugly face to the emirates because we at Arsenal are sick and tired of your abuse towards players and coach.
Piers Morgan:
Pipe down Junior, and go to bed. I’ve been following Arsenal for 42 years – twice as long than you’ve been born.
Frimpong:
We don’t need your support. You’re better off reading a script, leave the football to people that know about it. Wasteman
Piers Morgan:
Big words, big guy. I suggest you focus on improving your game – rather than abusing loyal fans. Most of whom agree with me.
Frimpong:
It still amazes me you call yourself a fan? A fan don’t doesn’t do the things you do. The fans are the people that travel thousands of miles every weekend to support their team. Fans are the 60,000 people we have every saturday. Fans don’t turn their back on their team.
So, yes, Piers, you ain’t a fan. You’re just some big old school bully that has too much time on twitter. Now you go bed and wake up early to read.
Piers Morgan:
I’ve followed Arsenal for 42yrs and own 4 season tickets. That entitles me to an opinion. Which is: we need a new manager.
Frimpong:
Loyal?? Well in football you have bad and good times. The LOYAL fans are the ones that remember the Good times. And wait for More.
Piers Morgan:
You’re so loyal to Arsenal you went to Wolves. So put a DEEENNCH in it and stop pandering to the blinkered minority.
Frimpong:
When was your last game at the emirates? Instead of the Internet. What have you ever done for Arsenal in 42 years? Nothing
Piers Morgan:
I’ve supported them. Nothing more, nothing less. And I want us to be competitive again, not perennial losers
Frimpong:
You’re entitled to your opinion. Of course you are, but there are ways of doing it, and telling your 2 million followers rubbish we don’t need ain’t class.”
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I really don’t have anything to add to that. Well said, Mr. Frimpong!
https://twitter.com/#!/piersmorgan
https://twitter.com/#!/Frimpong26AFC
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Player interviews translated into English
I believe I’ve seen a couple of TV shows, where the police can construct a composite model of some scene based on combining images from individuals distributed around the site.
Is this based on the real world, or just someone’s active imagination? Lots of people live in a M$ world, and I believe they call their version photosynth. There are possibly more than one FOSS project on this same idea. PixelStruct is one, OpenPhotoVR might be another? Could easily be others.
I haven’t played with any of these, I’m still stuck with film and my scanner has been down a long time. Maybe someone at UA knows something about this? In any event, I don’t believe sports teams are restricting people from brining their phones (with cameras) to games. It may be possible to build panoramic images of the game at various times, by combining images from the cameras of many people.
@Theopants Superstar:
If you think that Piers Morgan came out looking the better in that exchange, it certainly says a lot about you. “sunshine,” “junior,” “big boy.” Childish name calling.
@Rhys:
I didn’t necessarily see this as a pro-Wenger vs. anti-Wenger situation. Notice that Frimpong slated PM not just for his attacks on the manager, but on the “players” as well.
Arsene won’t be at Arsenal forever, and I’m sure that Arsenal will carry on after he’s gone. I do think he’s a great manager. But the reason that I enjoyed this exchange so much had nothing to do with the fact that Frimpong was defending Arsene.
Rather, it was good to see an Arsenal player standing up for ARSENAL, in the face of a media campaign whose ultimate goal is less about removing Wenger than it is about destabilizing our club.
@Mahdain:
Thanks for that link from Ladyarse. Interesting to see that Piers is on twitter again on that subject. He sure has a lot of time on his hands to spend on twitter, doesn’t he?
@bob & walter:
@mjgooner:
You seem to have missed the point on pretty much every level.
@Kenneth:
I really enjoyed that post. Well-reasoned and well-thought-out. What were you referring to about Tony and the Telegraph, btw?
@Mike:
As I already said above, the point of this really wasn’t about Wenger. Frimpong clearly referred to Morgan’s attacks on both the manager and the players. In other words, the team as a whole.
@Anne
I admire your loyalty in taking on all comers. But if you seriously have a look at my comment you might hopefully realise that I am on his side. The only place to expend any energy usefully for a footballer is on the field of play. Arguements are for children and girls ooops pls scratch that! Simply put football can be serious enough without externalities clouding a player’s mind.
@Anne……really I missed the point on some many levels, would love to know these levels.
For further clarification, I dont exactly think Piers Morgan is a saint nor do I think any individual is without fault. But when you ignore one individual’s ills and attack anothers’, it reeks of double standard.
All Piers said (paraphasing ofcourse) was that our current side arent as good as the previous years(Invincibles) and our current manager isnt who he used to be……how can you agrue with that.
Would Theo Walcott have gotten into the squad(not team) during the Invincibles era? Ofcourse not, players like Frimpong who are yet to achieve anything in their careers (and might still end up in the first division like JET who was even rated highly) now think of themselves as superstars, which is the basic problem. PRIDE…..which as we all know goes before a fall. Same as Wilshere betting with Spuds fans on twitter when they were three points ahead with a game in hand…..its all pure ARROGANCE when they have yet to prove themselves at the world stage.
Isnt it possible that the present side arent as good as previous sides because they are simply lazy and arrogant, thinking they only need to turn up for the game and teams will roll over for them.
All I am saying is if these young players have done anything of note for The Arsenal, then they can go running their mouth (or keyboards) on twitter for all I care. Piers Morgan for all his shortcomings has at least contributed a few pounds to the Arsenal in form of season tickets and merchandise purchase, so in my book has earned a right to question what goes on at the club, while Frimpong hasnt (think he got stupidly sent off against Liverpool and contributed to that defeat).
So I would really like to know how I missed the point.
@Anne:
Tony (Attwood) added to the comments on an “article/poll”at the Telegraph website(18.2.12),concerning which Arsenal players should be sold,etc… and(of course)received plenty of aggressive comments back.Which is to be expected in the basic polemics of today… (winner/loser) etc etc.
The “poll” is now closed.No doubt soon the “fans” will be invited by the club to vote who should come on a sub! As I stated before, X factor…imagine what could be achieved socially if we were all as vocal and attentive to politics as much as football…on the other hand maybe it would be like opening pandoras box!
Its possible to tell the bias/intentions of the article by looking at the image of Arshavin (what a diffrence a year makes for both Arshavin and Wenger,re: the Barca game!) that the picture editor selected.Proving that “serious” journalism, isnt.
As a side-note, its funny how the journalists have convinced many people that RVP is leaving at the end of the season,(i think this is at the back of everyones mind, seeing how many goals he scores), and why is it that Lucas Podolski is a)coming to Arsenal and b)is the answer to the problems? 15 goals this season,yes, but Kolle are struggling in the Bundesliga, and LP has been jaded in the national team for a while..he isnt the player he was…just some questions, as wherever I read, it seems that certain speculation ends up as fact.
I also wonder how much of the hysteria surrounding this terrible season(!)is a new found jealousy that Spurs are above Arsenal..at the moment, which is ridiculous really, as the season hasnt finished nor can the last X + years be wiped away…why are we letting another teams success dictate our partly self imposed misery? Once Spurs have really imposed fifteen years of brilliance on the PL (over and above Arsenal), then I’ll get irritated by Spurs, but not before!!! Are Liverpool and Newcastle in a state of misery and anger? No,(Suarez aside) theyre trying to stay focused, and benefiting from the looney tunes at Arsenal and Chelsea. I realise that Chelsea are in quite a similar position…Chelsea impose a hard-nosed Capitalism,(come second and ye shall be sacked!) which is creeping into our club too, sacking AVB if they lose to Napoli(which the press are also pushing for)isnt the answer, not with Champions league places being so important now in the Premier league.Some Arsenal fans could take stock of that, booting Wenger out now isnt going to make the team suddenly brilliant, in fact it could destroy any chance of fourth place or more.
Perhaps if the team could hear that the “fans” were behind them, who knows what can be achieved in the forthcoming games, as Arsenal could easily be the team that changes the seasons final positions, not just our own? Not supporting the team through slightly lesser times must have a terrible affect on the players regardless of how much theyre paid.
No-one wants to lose, but its a fact of life,and to cope with it we used to have at least some sportsmanship, and it made life much easier to keep the eye on the prize and produced many great matches, with real atmospheric excitement, one would have thought Piers Morgan might have known this.
Amen.
@Anne
I agree with you – it is great to see Frimpong defending the club from PM – who has become quite destructive in his comments about Arsenal while pretending to be a fan.
Well done Frimp!
@Patrick:
Sorry if I misunderstood your initial comment.
@mjgooner:
You missed the point because this article wasn’t supposed to be about the underlying debate about what action Arsenal needs take. It’s about the fact that the media engage in a scripted campaign to target Arsenal and seem intent on destabilizing the club for whatever reason.
And it was nice to see an Arsenal player retaliate against that, in my opinion. I’m sure that you don’t agree with me on these underlying facts, so it will be impossible for us to come to any agreement. But that’s what I meant when I said you missed the point.
Also, I think it’s a bit silly to suggest that a journalist has more right to question what goes on at Arsenal than an actual Arsenal player, solely because that journalist owns season tickets.
@Kenneth:
Another excellent post with some very good points. Personally, I’ve supported other sports teams that have gone from champions, to dead last, and back again, so it all just seems like part of a cycle to me. And on top of that, it’s not like Arsenal is doing badly now. Just slightly less good than they’ve done in recent years.
I mean, I don’t notice anyone calling for SAF’s head because ManU didn’t even qualify for the CL out of the easiest group. And yet, they’re calling for Wenger’s head because of a bad result in the quarter final.
My personal belief is that fans in general have a much higher level of support for Arsenal than this manufactured media hype would imply.
@bjtgooner:
Seconded.
@Anne,
Why did you actually choose to follow Arsenal after they threw away the biggest lead in EPL history?
I think some here fail to separate arsene wenger and arsenal still.
It is inevitable that the two are mutually exclusive at some point. they have been before and will be again.
For what it is worth, personally I have no love for piers moron. As a fully paid up member of Private Eye he is a crass, moronic and generally putrid individual with very few redeeming features. His association with News Corporation is a damning indictment enough for me.
However, and here’s the real problem, the continuing degradation of AFC (the footballing side and it’s ambition, ability and results)are in no small part to the lack of foresight or even acknowledgement to either see or deal with the issues in hand by the board and the management collectively.
The end of season party gets earlier each year, as the objectives and ambition lower further still, and so comments like ‘a bad quarter’ belie the underlying trend that has existed for some time.
So to that level, for him to depart before his legacy becomes lost in the inevitable power struggle between the fans at the emirates (who are becoming increasingly frustrated with the poor excuses which are being churned out with spectacular regularity) is possibly the best thing for him to do.
So the real question is what do you support?
Arsenal Football Club?
or Arsene Wenger?
Because only one of them will be around in decades to come, what it may look like will be in part defined by what wenger did since joining up until 2006, perhaps it is some people’s hope that 2006-1012 won’t define how he remembered by the rest.
So I would suggest that people ask and separate the question and the two answers accordingly.
As for Frimpong, he appears as equally biased as you would expect any employee to be. But that doesn’t validate what he said in any way whatsoever. He hasn’t even earned the right to be a first team regular player yet. As such he comes of as exactly what he is a young, petulant and protective employee.
And as my mum used to say, ‘two wrongs don’t make a right’.
I shall leave you all to ponder.
@DC:
Hm… you’re coming over from another thread on that one.
For anyone who hasn’t read it, DC’s comment is in response to this comment that I left on an earlier thread:
“Personally, I’ve enjoyed Arsenal’s football for years. Ever since I started following football, I’ve thought that Arsenal’s football was the only football in the EPL worth watching.
However, the one thing that inspired me to devote so much of my unpaid time to researching and writing about Arsenal was not any kind of Arsenal “victory” or “invincibles” season.
Rather, it was Arsenal’s 4-4 “draw” against Newcastle last year.”
@DC:
Ok, now I’ll respond to you. First of all, that match is not what caused me to FOLLOW Arsenal. I followed Arsenal before that. However, it was what caused me to begin to take such an active interest in this blog.
And since you asked me directly, I guess I’ll just go ahead and respond directly, even if my answer might be controversial.
Basically, the reason that that match caused me to take such an active interest in writing about Arsenal was because it was so blatantly fixed that I felt sick to my stomach after watching it.
So, that’s my answer. What’s your take?
@DC:
And of course, I could be wrong about that. It was just my perception of it at the time. But that was what caused me to start looking so deeply into issues surrounding corruption in football.
@Yippee Kai Yay:
As I said earlier, I don’t believe that Frimpong’s comments were motivated solely by a desire to defend Arsene Wenger. Just like my posting them wasn’t motivated solely by a desire to defend Arsene Wenger.
Turning this whole thing into an “Arsene vs.” controversy isn’t what it was really about. Rather, I perceived Morgan’s comments as part of a larger campaign to attack Arsenal as a club. Attacking Wenger would just be part of that.
And considering that Frimpong specifically objected to Morgan’s attack on both the manager “and the players,” my interpretation would be that he took it in the same way that I did. I could be wrong, but that’s just my interpretation.
@Anne,
That’s what I assumed.
It certainly was blatant but you probably could have gathered that conclusion from other matches over the previous years.
Keep up the good and admirable work!
@Anne,
But be wary as the key players are an unscrupulous cohort!
@DC:
Thanks for the tip
Splendid post as always Anne.
To jump the bandwagon, it is refreshing and encouraging to have an Arsenal player publicly stand up for the club in such a way.
Morgan’s twat, sorry… tweet,
“And if we don’t qualify for CL, as seems likely right now, then Robin Van Persie will leave. Fact. And then what?”
is wrong on two accounts. Fact!
1. Arsenal is currently in fourth, which entitles entry into the CL qualification stage.
2. Unless RvP keeps Morgan in the loop, Morgan will not know about Robin’s future.
Found the following on Frimpong’s Wikipedia page:
“Frimpong is the cousin of professional footballer, Piers Morgan who plays as a centre back for Norwegian club Sandefjord Fotball.”
Best piece of info I ever found on Wikipedia
@Kentetsu:
Wow…That’s taking “conspiracy theory” to a whole new level
@Arsenal1Again:
Glad you enjoyed it.
@Gord:
Still digesting your comments, btw.
Is piers moron ever off twitter these days? Can’t he give his ego a rest?
@Anne……..I am so sorry, didnt know that was what you meant. Didnt know you are one of those Arsenal fans that think the whole world is against us and our “sustainable model”.
But I am just curious, what gives anyone the right to question what goes on at The Arsenal. Do you have to be a player, a paying fan, a shareholder, a board member, an AST member, a season ticket holder, a journalist etc.
Well I will tell you what DOES NOT GIVE you the right to question The Arsenal……”If you have spent a day in football, havent managed a team, havent made 5000 substitutions etc” you dont have the right to question The Arsenal, well thats according to Our Lord Wenger.
Well basically it means Piers and Frimpong and most importantly YOU and ME have no right to question what goes on at our beloved club.
that cunt morgan is at it again abusing frimpong
@Mahdain:
Just checked it out. The whole thing is getting ridiculous. Maybe Morgan is enjoying the publicity he’s getting from this or something. I’m not going to give him any more myself
If piers moron has such a problem with frimpong, he should approach him and have a word with him next time he uses one of his four season tickets, that will be sometime after we win our next trophy then!
Or maybe some sort of charity boxing match with piers in full body armour, could sponsor him per second he lasts upright, ……come on, it would be for charity”…….
If anything Piers is doing Frimpong a favour, such is the perversity of twitter. By arguing with a minor cult player at the club he “supports” in a public arena he’s turning him into a bonafide celebrity.
@Mandy:
It seems that something similar to the above would also be Frimpong’s preferred scenario
@Woolwich:
“Perversity” indeed…
Its good to witness a passionate reaction from an Arsenal player in the public eye, but Frompong doesn’t really counter any of Pier’s arguments.
A fit Wilshere will transform Arsenal. Lets just hope it isn’t too late in the season
@Mike: “All of who think that there is no life without Wenger are cowards.” True enough. And whoever thinks sacking AW would resolve any problem and NOT create millions BIGGER ones is simply, well, MORON. I usually don’t talk to morons but I am boring right now so can’t help it.
Piers something, don’t know who he is, don’t know why he exists, but will surely kick his as* as hard as I can when I have a chance.
I am really happy that there seem to be more and more Gooner-Gunners in our team, especially in youth ranks. The future of our club is BRILLIANT.
@Yippee Kai Yay:
“So the real question is what do you support?
Arsenal Football Club?
or Arsene Wenger?”
Both. I will support AFC after Wenger, and I will surely support Wenger after AFC, where-ever he is, whatever he does.
That is NOT the question. The REAL question is: Is it wise to replace your best ever manager, and the seemingly only manager who can success with our HEALTHY model, after a few (assumed) “bad” seasons? 6 or 7 ARE JUST A FEW years for whatever sake! And in my opinion, most of them were not THAT bad.
And maybe these: For how long Liverpool have not won the Premiership? For how long Tiny Totts have not won the Premiership? How much money have Man Shitty spent since their rich-moron-boss took over and what have they won?
Their would be A LOT people committing suicide after answering these questions if they think like you (and shockingly many more out there).