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		<title>By: Marc</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2407/comment-page-1#comment-14838</link>
		<dc:creator>Marc</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:37:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice piece Tony.

I&#039;ve watched a lot of the documentaries on the recent economic problems and the comparisons with previous bad times.  The one thing they all seem to have in common is an excess of leveraged debt.  The &quot;experts&quot; spent most of the noughties telling us why we were immune to a repeat,  the same &quot;experts&quot; are now telling us that football is immune to what has affected almost every other aspects of the economy.

Not so much a case of doomed to repeat histories mistakes as determined to repeat them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice piece Tony.</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve watched a lot of the documentaries on the recent economic problems and the comparisons with previous bad times.  The one thing they all seem to have in common is an excess of leveraged debt.  The &#8220;experts&#8221; spent most of the noughties telling us why we were immune to a repeat,  the same &#8220;experts&#8221; are now telling us that football is immune to what has affected almost every other aspects of the economy.</p>
<p>Not so much a case of doomed to repeat histories mistakes as determined to repeat them.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2407/comment-page-1#comment-14837</link>
		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 18:31:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For those who wanted an article on the match it is there but sometimes it is better to hold your breath a while before you say anything. A virtue some do not know I think. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For those who wanted an article on the match it is there but sometimes it is better to hold your breath a while before you say anything. A virtue some do not know I think. <img src='http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Finsbury</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2407/comment-page-1#comment-14826</link>
		<dc:creator>Finsbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:55:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes!</description>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2407/comment-page-1#comment-14820</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Finsbury
That&#039;s tongue-in-cheek about the City of London, yes?!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Finsbury<br />
That&#8217;s tongue-in-cheek about the City of London, yes?!</p>
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		<title>By: Finsbury</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2407/comment-page-1#comment-14816</link>
		<dc:creator>Finsbury</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 16:11:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony,

Any thoughts on what happened in Argentinean domestic football and what happened with the TV rights over there? OF course, politically, that could never happen under the auspicious &amp; impeccable guidance of the City of London, but it is interesting. 

Brilliant analogy between the housing bubble and the football/TV rights bubble.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony,</p>
<p>Any thoughts on what happened in Argentinean domestic football and what happened with the TV rights over there? OF course, politically, that could never happen under the auspicious &amp; impeccable guidance of the City of London, but it is interesting. </p>
<p>Brilliant analogy between the housing bubble and the football/TV rights bubble.</p>
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		<title>By: Hartwick89</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hartwick89</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:59:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Funny all bloggers are thinking one dimensional and predictable.  The notion that there is a real problem in the EPL I don&#039;t think has sunk in.  It seems real especially in regards to lower table teams, MAn &amp; LiverPool.  Question is if impending doom is near what will we do Sat. afternoons?  And, what does a new league look like after that?  Is there still time to fix it?

The test of a team of willingness to be sustainable is being offered vast amounts of money and actually investing it or saving it.  It seems based on the article and the current footballing climate that model has escaped the teams for a number of reasons as Tony points out.  Man IOU fall into the billionaire schemes while lower table teams just lack the vision of success.  Even Arsenal to a degree have lost some focus in regards to true sustainibility.

So what&#039;s the point?  Well imagine if you were given 1mill sterling.  What would you do with it?  Would you save it and still live within your means?  Would you save some, invest some, &amp; live within your means? Or would you spend more than you make and take out loans to support more spending.

It is simple the EPL had a great opportunity for the league and the teams with the suprising in flow of vast sums of money.  But, they lacked the integrity and knowledge of what to do with it....So it&#039;s on them and on owners and on fans who lack understanding of basic budgeting.  &quot;Pay what is due&quot;, and never take out loans because that means you can&#039;t afford it.  If you follow that you have know problems.  And, as I see it even Arsenal have some problems if the TV money doesn&#039;t come through.  

To Arsene,

You have done a great job all things considered.  Do we have enough money to deal with finances if TV revenues fail to be payed?  If not you still have some work to do!

Caring Arsenal Fan</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Funny all bloggers are thinking one dimensional and predictable.  The notion that there is a real problem in the EPL I don&#8217;t think has sunk in.  It seems real especially in regards to lower table teams, MAn &amp; LiverPool.  Question is if impending doom is near what will we do Sat. afternoons?  And, what does a new league look like after that?  Is there still time to fix it?</p>
<p>The test of a team of willingness to be sustainable is being offered vast amounts of money and actually investing it or saving it.  It seems based on the article and the current footballing climate that model has escaped the teams for a number of reasons as Tony points out.  Man IOU fall into the billionaire schemes while lower table teams just lack the vision of success.  Even Arsenal to a degree have lost some focus in regards to true sustainibility.</p>
<p>So what&#8217;s the point?  Well imagine if you were given 1mill sterling.  What would you do with it?  Would you save it and still live within your means?  Would you save some, invest some, &amp; live within your means? Or would you spend more than you make and take out loans to support more spending.</p>
<p>It is simple the EPL had a great opportunity for the league and the teams with the suprising in flow of vast sums of money.  But, they lacked the integrity and knowledge of what to do with it&#8230;.So it&#8217;s on them and on owners and on fans who lack understanding of basic budgeting.  &#8220;Pay what is due&#8221;, and never take out loans because that means you can&#8217;t afford it.  If you follow that you have know problems.  And, as I see it even Arsenal have some problems if the TV money doesn&#8217;t come through.  </p>
<p>To Arsene,</p>
<p>You have done a great job all things considered.  Do we have enough money to deal with finances if TV revenues fail to be payed?  If not you still have some work to do!</p>
<p>Caring Arsenal Fan</p>
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		<title>By: isaic</title>
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		<dc:creator>isaic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:47:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>the match was a humiliating one... but by any chance, we always got written off and bounce back again...we won at the bridge before... we can win again... nice article tony by the way...

I have one question, if all clubs except Arsenal of course, go bust what will happen to the PL? Man Utd, Liverpool, Bolton, Hull and a lot others are facing debts and what about Chelsea? After turning those debts into bonds and selling it as shares, can this be repeated if they ever face this kind of situation again?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the match was a humiliating one&#8230; but by any chance, we always got written off and bounce back again&#8230;we won at the bridge before&#8230; we can win again&#8230; nice article tony by the way&#8230;</p>
<p>I have one question, if all clubs except Arsenal of course, go bust what will happen to the PL? Man Utd, Liverpool, Bolton, Hull and a lot others are facing debts and what about Chelsea? After turning those debts into bonds and selling it as shares, can this be repeated if they ever face this kind of situation again?</p>
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		<title>By: Colonel Mustard</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2407/comment-page-1#comment-14787</link>
		<dc:creator>Colonel Mustard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:17:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no article about the match..eh Tony....yeahhh I did;nt think you would.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no article about the match..eh Tony&#8230;.yeahhh I did;nt think you would.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 12:02:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t think the governement could come between bankrupcy of MU or Liverpool.
Bacause this will open the door to every football club to ask the same treatment and thus opening the door to every club spending like mad as they know the governement will bail them out. 

This never can be done by governement. They did for the banks but the banks are a vital part of the (global) economy of a country. A football club is not a vital part in the economy of a country. 

The ones that are gambling on this scenario could have a hard awakening. I really hope so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t think the governement could come between bankrupcy of MU or Liverpool.<br />
Bacause this will open the door to every football club to ask the same treatment and thus opening the door to every club spending like mad as they know the governement will bail them out. </p>
<p>This never can be done by governement. They did for the banks but the banks are a vital part of the (global) economy of a country. A football club is not a vital part in the economy of a country. </p>
<p>The ones that are gambling on this scenario could have a hard awakening. I really hope so.</p>
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		<title>By: christianjimmy</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 11:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article Tony. I&#039;m not sure you&#039;re right though! 
While its true that thanks to the leadership of Lord Wenger Arsenal are much better equipped than any other club to ride out the storm following any potential collapse in the tv money flooding the game, I&#039;m not sure that the collapse which would seem to predicate the demise of the football 2.0 model will ever come.
I think the best model to look at as to how the game will develop may (sadly?) be the USA; Huge player salaries were the norm there long before they crept into football. Massive reliance on tv audience. Local supporters increasingly less important (eg the movement of so-called franchises to different cities). The marketing emphasis of customers rather than fans. that kind of thing... 
Now without being an expert on the US model of sports franchises (shudder) it seems to me that it is such an entrenched way of operating that it simply wont disapear even in the most adverse of economic conditions. And that this model which certainly the US investors (Glazers, Hicks and Gillett) seem to be keen on developing here will also never be allowed to completely collapse.
Can you imagine any government allowing Liverpool or Man Utd go under on their watch? Much more likely that they&#039;d arrange some kind of bailing out, a la banking, which would effectively allow the model to continue as is, despite the public opinion and government pressure!
I think the combination of money, success, and american sports franchise modelled influence will lead to a super elite emerging from the pack and dominating (in the way Real M and Barca do in spain for example)
I hope this isnt the case, but I fear that it will be our future!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article Tony. I&#8217;m not sure you&#8217;re right though!<br />
While its true that thanks to the leadership of Lord Wenger Arsenal are much better equipped than any other club to ride out the storm following any potential collapse in the tv money flooding the game, I&#8217;m not sure that the collapse which would seem to predicate the demise of the football 2.0 model will ever come.<br />
I think the best model to look at as to how the game will develop may (sadly?) be the USA; Huge player salaries were the norm there long before they crept into football. Massive reliance on tv audience. Local supporters increasingly less important (eg the movement of so-called franchises to different cities). The marketing emphasis of customers rather than fans. that kind of thing&#8230;<br />
Now without being an expert on the US model of sports franchises (shudder) it seems to me that it is such an entrenched way of operating that it simply wont disapear even in the most adverse of economic conditions. And that this model which certainly the US investors (Glazers, Hicks and Gillett) seem to be keen on developing here will also never be allowed to completely collapse.<br />
Can you imagine any government allowing Liverpool or Man Utd go under on their watch? Much more likely that they&#8217;d arrange some kind of bailing out, a la banking, which would effectively allow the model to continue as is, despite the public opinion and government pressure!<br />
I think the combination of money, success, and american sports franchise modelled influence will lead to a super elite emerging from the pack and dominating (in the way Real M and Barca do in spain for example)<br />
I hope this isnt the case, but I fear that it will be our future!</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 10:28:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money has made the Premiership predictable.
Don&#039;t believe me.....see my comment on the &#039;Rooney&#039; thread about games at Arsenal and Chelsea this season.

Bought a wonderful book in Cornwall before Christmas.
A gambler&#039;s guide to the upcoming season (1956-1957).
Man. U. had a strong side then but, even so, there were any number of teams who were in with a chance of winning the League and Cup.
Newcastle, Villa, Burnley. Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Man. C., Man. U., Wolves, Bolton...........all had a chance.

In 2010 either Man. U. or Chelsea will win the league or, if you like, Chelsea or Man. U.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money has made the Premiership predictable.<br />
Don&#8217;t believe me&#8230;..see my comment on the &#8216;Rooney&#8217; thread about games at Arsenal and Chelsea this season.</p>
<p>Bought a wonderful book in Cornwall before Christmas.<br />
A gambler&#8217;s guide to the upcoming season (1956-1957).<br />
Man. U. had a strong side then but, even so, there were any number of teams who were in with a chance of winning the League and Cup.<br />
Newcastle, Villa, Burnley. Arsenal, Chelsea, Spurs, Man. C., Man. U., Wolves, Bolton&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;..all had a chance.</p>
<p>In 2010 either Man. U. or Chelsea will win the league or, if you like, Chelsea or Man. U.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete The First</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete The First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 09:54:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony, good job at &#039;swerving&#039; the game on Sunday.  Straight out of the Alistair Campbell book of burying bad news.

I see Spurs have been active in the transfer window.  Harry rotating some of his old favourites between clubs.  Main players in these deals Harry Redknapp &amp; Peter (I don&#039;t hold the purse strings) Storrie.  Brown paper bag anyone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, good job at &#8216;swerving&#8217; the game on Sunday.  Straight out of the Alistair Campbell book of burying bad news.</p>
<p>I see Spurs have been active in the transfer window.  Harry rotating some of his old favourites between clubs.  Main players in these deals Harry Redknapp &amp; Peter (I don&#8217;t hold the purse strings) Storrie.  Brown paper bag anyone?</p>
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		<title>By: critic</title>
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		<dc:creator>critic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>what deafening, everyone knows it was humiliating, then why discuss it??what&#039;s the point in discussing the defeat, when u know only person who can change these humiliating result against big team doesn&#039;t read this blog(may be he does and takes the tip what not to do).that stubborn person will not let anyone&#039;s opinion to change his....he will stop at nothing until he prove his point right....

nice article tony...now give some light on arsenal finances and the truth behind  wenger&#039;s quote &quot;&quot; our finances don&#039;t depend upon CL&quot;&quot;...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>what deafening, everyone knows it was humiliating, then why discuss it??what&#8217;s the point in discussing the defeat, when u know only person who can change these humiliating result against big team doesn&#8217;t read this blog(may be he does and takes the tip what not to do).that stubborn person will not let anyone&#8217;s opinion to change his&#8230;.he will stop at nothing until he prove his point right&#8230;.</p>
<p>nice article tony&#8230;now give some light on arsenal finances and the truth behind  wenger&#8217;s quote &#8220;&#8221; our finances don&#8217;t depend upon CL&#8221;"&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: well-endowed gooner</title>
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		<dc:creator>well-endowed gooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The one recurring theme from that article is the fixed, long-term contracts given to players. In what other industry is an employee given a 4-5 year contract, irrespective of performance? It should be mandatory that wages are linked to league position, or club income, or something that allows wages to be pegged back in case of regulation. 

And Tony, your silence on the Man Utd game is deafening.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The one recurring theme from that article is the fixed, long-term contracts given to players. In what other industry is an employee given a 4-5 year contract, irrespective of performance? It should be mandatory that wages are linked to league position, or club income, or something that allows wages to be pegged back in case of regulation. </p>
<p>And Tony, your silence on the Man Utd game is deafening.</p>
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		<title>By: Cape Gooner</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 08:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for this Tony. I can grasp what is going on at most of the clubs, but Chelsea and Man City are beyond my understanding. This from Too Much online........

Almost all billionaires, at one time or another, grouse about the paparazzi. But Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich doesn&#039;t just grouse. His new super yacht, Bloomberg News is reporting, features an &quot;anti-paparazzi laser shield that fires bolts of light at cameras to obliterate photographs.&quot; Roman won&#039;t be doing any firing until later this year when his new yacht, the 560-foot Eclipse, actually gets delivered. The Eclipse will sport a full-time crew 70 strong, two helicopter pads, and a mini-submarine. To keep Abramovich safe at sea, the Eclipse also boasts armor plating - and a missile defense system. The yacht has so far taken four years to build. The final bill? That may run $1.2 billion. Abramovich, incidentally, already owns three other super yachts . . .

(me again) If Abromovich can spend $1.2b (about 700m quid) on his 4th yacht, then there is no end to the money he can spend on Chelsea. And what are the implications of “no end”?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for this Tony. I can grasp what is going on at most of the clubs, but Chelsea and Man City are beyond my understanding. This from Too Much online&#8230;&#8230;..</p>
<p>Almost all billionaires, at one time or another, grouse about the paparazzi. But Russian billionaire Roman Abramovich doesn&#8217;t just grouse. His new super yacht, Bloomberg News is reporting, features an &#8220;anti-paparazzi laser shield that fires bolts of light at cameras to obliterate photographs.&#8221; Roman won&#8217;t be doing any firing until later this year when his new yacht, the 560-foot Eclipse, actually gets delivered. The Eclipse will sport a full-time crew 70 strong, two helicopter pads, and a mini-submarine. To keep Abramovich safe at sea, the Eclipse also boasts armor plating &#8211; and a missile defense system. The yacht has so far taken four years to build. The final bill? That may run $1.2 billion. Abramovich, incidentally, already owns three other super yachts . . .</p>
<p>(me again) If Abromovich can spend $1.2b (about 700m quid) on his 4th yacht, then there is no end to the money he can spend on Chelsea. And what are the implications of “no end”?</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks AGS for the information. So in fact they are all dancing on thin ice with the TV money. One year without the money and you could be almost finished.
And for the big 4 the CL money is also almost irreplacable.
Walking on a high wire with no safety net...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks AGS for the information. So in fact they are all dancing on thin ice with the TV money. One year without the money and you could be almost finished.<br />
And for the big 4 the CL money is also almost irreplacable.<br />
Walking on a high wire with no safety net&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Abhishek</title>
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		<dc:creator>Abhishek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 07:18:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Tim

Nice analysis. I also find it possible because of the history of premier league clubs. 

Just today I read that premier league was formed was due to TV viewership and not due to footballing reasons. The reason being people would love to see the top clubs play togethar and this might lead to a new super european league. I also read that UEFA want all the top leagues to reduce the number of teams from 20 to 18. So if it happens it can be another pain for smaller teams. It has already reduced from 22 to 20. 

Well the teams are in deep s*** can be gauged from the fact that Fernandes got 7 offers from PL teams to buy them after he failed to buy West Ham. So we can safely say that a majority of PL teams are in deep danger and willing to sell themselves to anyone who has money like a **********(you guess it).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Tim</p>
<p>Nice analysis. I also find it possible because of the history of premier league clubs. </p>
<p>Just today I read that premier league was formed was due to TV viewership and not due to footballing reasons. The reason being people would love to see the top clubs play togethar and this might lead to a new super european league. I also read that UEFA want all the top leagues to reduce the number of teams from 20 to 18. So if it happens it can be another pain for smaller teams. It has already reduced from 22 to 20. </p>
<p>Well the teams are in deep s*** can be gauged from the fact that Fernandes got 7 offers from PL teams to buy them after he failed to buy West Ham. So we can safely say that a majority of PL teams are in deep danger and willing to sell themselves to anyone who has money like a **********(you guess it).</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 01:18:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony, excellent posting.  

Looking at the evidence you provide, one conclusion I have is that the big, established clubs will try to break off and form a super league once they stop getting results.  

I mean, if I were a director of Man U or Liverpool, and see signs that the day of reckoning will come, why wouldn&#039;t I try to prevent that risk by breaking off to form a super league?  Why rely on Champions League or Sky Sports revenue when my club (along with a few other mis-managed, big name clubs) would never have to worry about dropping out of the Champions League or Premier League again?  Why worry about clubs nipping at your boots when you can just shut the door?  It&#039;s instant, guaranteed revenue.  (This, I think, is Wenger&#039;s point about the super league...though I can&#039;t remember what his reasoning was.)

I think a forerunner to this would be clubs trying to form their own cable channels like Real Madrid has...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, excellent posting.  </p>
<p>Looking at the evidence you provide, one conclusion I have is that the big, established clubs will try to break off and form a super league once they stop getting results.  </p>
<p>I mean, if I were a director of Man U or Liverpool, and see signs that the day of reckoning will come, why wouldn&#8217;t I try to prevent that risk by breaking off to form a super league?  Why rely on Champions League or Sky Sports revenue when my club (along with a few other mis-managed, big name clubs) would never have to worry about dropping out of the Champions League or Premier League again?  Why worry about clubs nipping at your boots when you can just shut the door?  It&#8217;s instant, guaranteed revenue.  (This, I think, is Wenger&#8217;s point about the super league&#8230;though I can&#8217;t remember what his reasoning was.)</p>
<p>I think a forerunner to this would be clubs trying to form their own cable channels like Real Madrid has&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: AGS</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 23:52:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Walter,
EPL clubs will receive in the region of £50-£60 million per season in money from the Sky TV deal. So to a club like Arsenal that has turnover of £200m +, its not the be all and end all, but still very significant. However, to clubs like Bolton, Hull, Wolves, Wigan, Portsmouth etc, it is everything because the size of their fan base means that gate receipt money will be relatively low. So even if these clubs have wages bills at £30-£40m (low when compared with Arsenal, ManIOU, Chelski) then they are still at big risk. 
But the Champions league will also bring in massive revenues for those that qualify. See the link below which is a very good breakdown of all the revenue clubs can receive.
http://www.theoffside.com/tournaments/champions-league/uefa-champions-league-200910-prize-money.html
So adding CL revenue to EPL money means that it accounts for probably around 40-50% of Arsenals yearly turnover.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Walter,<br />
EPL clubs will receive in the region of £50-£60 million per season in money from the Sky TV deal. So to a club like Arsenal that has turnover of £200m +, its not the be all and end all, but still very significant. However, to clubs like Bolton, Hull, Wolves, Wigan, Portsmouth etc, it is everything because the size of their fan base means that gate receipt money will be relatively low. So even if these clubs have wages bills at £30-£40m (low when compared with Arsenal, ManIOU, Chelski) then they are still at big risk.<br />
But the Champions league will also bring in massive revenues for those that qualify. See the link below which is a very good breakdown of all the revenue clubs can receive.<br />
<a href="http://www.theoffside.com/tournaments/champions-league/uefa-champions-league-200910-prize-money.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.theoffside.com/tournaments/champions-league/uefa-champions-league-200910-prize-money.html</a><br />
So adding CL revenue to EPL money means that it accounts for probably around 40-50% of Arsenals yearly turnover.</p>
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		<title>By: matthew</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 22:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>great question. i would really like to know whether AW has this £30/40 Million to spend and is not spending it. or whether this in fact a myth, preported by the board and backed up by AW, until such time as we deal with the debot on the ground. my understanding is that we have circa £75 million in the bank. but that we have to keep £35 million in the bank at all times, as interest cover on the loan on the ground. if we are assuming that the remaining is available capital, could that all be spent on players? and if so, would that have to cover the fee to the selling club as well as the wages&gt;? if thats the case, then we dont really have a lot of money and are not able to compete with teh big spenders in the market. if anyone can shed any light on this it would be greatly appreciated</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>great question. i would really like to know whether AW has this £30/40 Million to spend and is not spending it. or whether this in fact a myth, preported by the board and backed up by AW, until such time as we deal with the debot on the ground. my understanding is that we have circa £75 million in the bank. but that we have to keep £35 million in the bank at all times, as interest cover on the loan on the ground. if we are assuming that the remaining is available capital, could that all be spent on players? and if so, would that have to cover the fee to the selling club as well as the wages&gt;? if thats the case, then we dont really have a lot of money and are not able to compete with teh big spenders in the market. if anyone can shed any light on this it would be greatly appreciated</p>
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