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		<title>By: boca raton plumber</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-16302</link>
		<dc:creator>boca raton plumber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2010 18:57:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;We have too much debt. However, things won&#039;t explode during our terms in office. Therefore, it&#039;s not our problem.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;We have too much debt. However, things won&#8217;t explode during our terms in office. Therefore, it&#8217;s not our problem.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 15:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well endowed gooner, No one can ever really say what Cesc is thinking so we only can look to his statements when he makes one. 
So it is a bit easy to say &quot;he is probably thinking it&quot;. I can tell that he is probably thinking the opposite. And we still don&#039;t know what he is really thinking.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well endowed gooner, No one can ever really say what Cesc is thinking so we only can look to his statements when he makes one.<br />
So it is a bit easy to say &#8220;he is probably thinking it&#8221;. I can tell that he is probably thinking the opposite. And we still don&#8217;t know what he is really thinking.</p>
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		<title>By: pete</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-15947</link>
		<dc:creator>pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 13:03:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony: Your comment about Chelsea not being able to meet the new demands for financial solvency set forth by UEFA, in regards to competing in the ECL.
Do you really expect that a G-14 club will be held accountable for these rigid (but altogether fair)demands? Or will the club&#039;s lawyers be able to find and exploit some loophole? Think about the player trading ban imposed on Chelsea, but then later being completely lifted and the club acquitted of any wrongdoing, whatsoever?

Thx for the good work.

Pete</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony: Your comment about Chelsea not being able to meet the new demands for financial solvency set forth by UEFA, in regards to competing in the ECL.<br />
Do you really expect that a G-14 club will be held accountable for these rigid (but altogether fair)demands? Or will the club&#8217;s lawyers be able to find and exploit some loophole? Think about the player trading ban imposed on Chelsea, but then later being completely lifted and the club acquitted of any wrongdoing, whatsoever?</p>
<p>Thx for the good work.</p>
<p>Pete</p>
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		<title>By: well-endowed gooner</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-15933</link>
		<dc:creator>well-endowed gooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 02:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Indian Gunner, of course Cesc isn&#039;t saying that other players are shit. He&#039;s probably thinking it, but that&#039;s not what you say in the national media. Almunia isn&#039;t good enough for the Arsenal. He hasn&#039;t been good enough for 4.5 years out of 5. It&#039;s not a radical statement I&#039;m making here. 8/10 gooners would agree. But that&#039;s not the point. 

The point is that Cesc is focused on the here and now, and not five years down the track. Here and now, we can do things to improve the squad: improve our application and improve our defence. This has NOTHING to do with finances. But is Arsenal doing anything to improve these two aspects of our squad? No. THAT&#039;S what is pissing off the fans who have taken their blinkers off. 

So while it&#039;s all good and well for you guys to talk about 5 years down the track, the rest of us are worrying about why we&#039;re failing in the same areas that we&#039;ve been failing for 5 years, and why there&#039;s been no sign of improvement in the meantime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Indian Gunner, of course Cesc isn&#8217;t saying that other players are shit. He&#8217;s probably thinking it, but that&#8217;s not what you say in the national media. Almunia isn&#8217;t good enough for the Arsenal. He hasn&#8217;t been good enough for 4.5 years out of 5. It&#8217;s not a radical statement I&#8217;m making here. 8/10 gooners would agree. But that&#8217;s not the point. </p>
<p>The point is that Cesc is focused on the here and now, and not five years down the track. Here and now, we can do things to improve the squad: improve our application and improve our defence. This has NOTHING to do with finances. But is Arsenal doing anything to improve these two aspects of our squad? No. THAT&#8217;S what is pissing off the fans who have taken their blinkers off. </p>
<p>So while it&#8217;s all good and well for you guys to talk about 5 years down the track, the rest of us are worrying about why we&#8217;re failing in the same areas that we&#8217;ve been failing for 5 years, and why there&#8217;s been no sign of improvement in the meantime.</p>
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		<title>By: Goonergerry</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-15929</link>
		<dc:creator>Goonergerry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Feb 2010 00:44:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Walter,-How about Ashley Cole for starters. - but every close season since Arsene has been developing this team we have had our top stars playing cat and mouse with the big european clubs before eventually leaving. Players like Flamini, Overnars, Petit, even  Vieira and Henry for all their greatness still saw this club as a stepping stone to a bigger club. It is an inevitability that young players we are developing will go elsewhere if we cannot match the ambitions, wages and conditions of other clubs when they develop into top players. Lets hope Cesc is different.
 It does seem strange to me to go overboard about our financial position when we have sold experienced players this season in order to partly finance our overall debt.

 Lets hope Cesc is different.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Walter,-How about Ashley Cole for starters. &#8211; but every close season since Arsene has been developing this team we have had our top stars playing cat and mouse with the big european clubs before eventually leaving. Players like Flamini, Overnars, Petit, even  Vieira and Henry for all their greatness still saw this club as a stepping stone to a bigger club. It is an inevitability that young players we are developing will go elsewhere if we cannot match the ambitions, wages and conditions of other clubs when they develop into top players. Lets hope Cesc is different.<br />
 It does seem strange to me to go overboard about our financial position when we have sold experienced players this season in order to partly finance our overall debt.</p>
<p> Lets hope Cesc is different.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-15924</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 23:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very well put IndianGooner.

I just would like to complete by saying that in fact Cesc doesn&#039;t have to care about finances. He only has to play and do his best for the team. 

Also read the Clichy statement and I really thought it was a kind of statement to the fans to get FULLY behind the team and ALL the players.

Like Clichy said: cheering the players and singing their song is the only way during a game we, the fans, can make the players feel we are behind them even if they make mistakes. 

Can someone take a big hammer and hammer it in the heads of those booing type of fans and those fans producing lines on internet sites like &quot;never fit enough to put a shirt on&quot; or other b*llsh*t.

Players that are feeling love of the fans will work harder than players who feel the disgust of some part of the fans.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very well put IndianGooner.</p>
<p>I just would like to complete by saying that in fact Cesc doesn&#8217;t have to care about finances. He only has to play and do his best for the team. </p>
<p>Also read the Clichy statement and I really thought it was a kind of statement to the fans to get FULLY behind the team and ALL the players.</p>
<p>Like Clichy said: cheering the players and singing their song is the only way during a game we, the fans, can make the players feel we are behind them even if they make mistakes. </p>
<p>Can someone take a big hammer and hammer it in the heads of those booing type of fans and those fans producing lines on internet sites like &#8220;never fit enough to put a shirt on&#8221; or other b*llsh*t.</p>
<p>Players that are feeling love of the fans will work harder than players who feel the disgust of some part of the fans.</p>
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		<title>By: IndianGooner</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-15919</link>
		<dc:creator>IndianGooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:47:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WEG, No because Cesc Fabregas never said one of my teammate is shit or not worthy of wearing the Arsenal shirt.. These sort of comments shouldnt be coming from a fan.. Moreover Cesc didnt say we need world-class players or that we need to spend. If you read all his interviews, he says We HAVE the squad to win trophies. He believes in the squad. So why can&#039;t some of the fans believe??

He doesnt say anything about Cathedrals and stuff because He doesnt want to comment on things regarding the finances. It is not his business to talk about it even he is concerned about it because He knows there are people who are looking after that. Whereas we fans do need to be concerned about this as We dont want ou club to be in financial problems. Ask any Portsmouth or Leeds fans, they will explain this aspect better. We want our club to be at the top and in a good state for a long time. That is why the comparison with Cathedrals and stuff.

If a player having a bad day or is playing when not fully match-fit, accept that but still support and cheer him instead of booing him.. Booing and making comments like &#039;not fit to wear the shirt&#039; not only demoralises the player but the ENTIRE TEAM&#039;s confidence. This squad has belief in every one&#039;s abilities. If not, they wouldnt have been able to play the way they do.. They have lot of mutual understanding and knows other&#039;s strengths and weaknesses. Check the way Song plays when he plays alongside Diaby and Denilson. Or the way AA plays with or without Eduardo or Cesc. or that TV or Gallas bomb forward lot more when Song plays..

Check Henry&#039;s interviews. He never says anything bad about the club or the players. He does gets disappointed when we lose like all of us but NEVER says any bad comments about any of the players..

Or check Clichy&#039;s latest interview on the official site where he says it feels good when FANS sing the players name. Just imagine the opposite where your own fans boo the players. Would that make them happy or worried for their teammate??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WEG, No because Cesc Fabregas never said one of my teammate is shit or not worthy of wearing the Arsenal shirt.. These sort of comments shouldnt be coming from a fan.. Moreover Cesc didnt say we need world-class players or that we need to spend. If you read all his interviews, he says We HAVE the squad to win trophies. He believes in the squad. So why can&#8217;t some of the fans believe??</p>
<p>He doesnt say anything about Cathedrals and stuff because He doesnt want to comment on things regarding the finances. It is not his business to talk about it even he is concerned about it because He knows there are people who are looking after that. Whereas we fans do need to be concerned about this as We dont want ou club to be in financial problems. Ask any Portsmouth or Leeds fans, they will explain this aspect better. We want our club to be at the top and in a good state for a long time. That is why the comparison with Cathedrals and stuff.</p>
<p>If a player having a bad day or is playing when not fully match-fit, accept that but still support and cheer him instead of booing him.. Booing and making comments like &#8216;not fit to wear the shirt&#8217; not only demoralises the player but the ENTIRE TEAM&#8217;s confidence. This squad has belief in every one&#8217;s abilities. If not, they wouldnt have been able to play the way they do.. They have lot of mutual understanding and knows other&#8217;s strengths and weaknesses. Check the way Song plays when he plays alongside Diaby and Denilson. Or the way AA plays with or without Eduardo or Cesc. or that TV or Gallas bomb forward lot more when Song plays..</p>
<p>Check Henry&#8217;s interviews. He never says anything bad about the club or the players. He does gets disappointed when we lose like all of us but NEVER says any bad comments about any of the players..</p>
<p>Or check Clichy&#8217;s latest interview on the official site where he says it feels good when FANS sing the players name. Just imagine the opposite where your own fans boo the players. Would that make them happy or worried for their teammate??</p>
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		<title>By: well-endowed gooner</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-15918</link>
		<dc:creator>well-endowed gooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:13:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;As a team, we need to be stronger. We can&#039;t hide behind people saying we are too young or we have injuries. We just have to compete. People say you must learn from your mistakes, but you learn how to play football when you are 12, 13, 14, 15. You don&#039;t learn these things when you are 25. That is why I do not believe age is an excuse.

&quot;In the past few years, we have been doing very well, but whenever it comes to important moments, maybe we haven&#039;t been up where we need to be. We have always tried to play our football, but the goals we have conceded lately have come from defensive mistakes. We are a team, so we all take responsibility for it together. We can keep playing the same style of football, but it is the mentality that will determine whether you win trophies or not. We need an extra edge in these big games.&quot;

Cesc Fabregas said that. He mentioned nothing about cathedrals to football, Arsenal&#039;s sound finances or Wenger&#039;s great vision. His focus is on winning trophies, our defensive frailties and our mental deficiencies. Does that make Cesc Fabregas a spoilt plastic fan as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As a team, we need to be stronger. We can&#8217;t hide behind people saying we are too young or we have injuries. We just have to compete. People say you must learn from your mistakes, but you learn how to play football when you are 12, 13, 14, 15. You don&#8217;t learn these things when you are 25. That is why I do not believe age is an excuse.</p>
<p>&#8220;In the past few years, we have been doing very well, but whenever it comes to important moments, maybe we haven&#8217;t been up where we need to be. We have always tried to play our football, but the goals we have conceded lately have come from defensive mistakes. We are a team, so we all take responsibility for it together. We can keep playing the same style of football, but it is the mentality that will determine whether you win trophies or not. We need an extra edge in these big games.&#8221;</p>
<p>Cesc Fabregas said that. He mentioned nothing about cathedrals to football, Arsenal&#8217;s sound finances or Wenger&#8217;s great vision. His focus is on winning trophies, our defensive frailties and our mental deficiencies. Does that make Cesc Fabregas a spoilt plastic fan as well?</p>
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		<title>By: well-endowed gooner</title>
		<link>http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/archives/2491/comment-page-1#comment-15917</link>
		<dc:creator>well-endowed gooner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 21:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not sure about how Spanish clubs run their elections, but I get the impression that they vote for a single candidate, who then gets the right to appoint everyone on the board. That all-or-nothing type of election leads to instability and the insane crazy promises (Cesc to Barca, Ronaldo to Real Madrid) that get made every election. 

I&#039;d suggest that a member-owned and run board need not be so autocractic. Take a board with 10 members, on 4 year terms. You could make voting proportional. Candidates could still have group tickets, but votes counted will be for individuals. Thus, if two groups feature strongly in the voting (and win 50% of the vote each), both would get representation on the board. Or you could stagger the elections so that half the board are elected at any one election, thus retaining some sort of continuity. 

Plus, the difference between Spanish and English football is that the manager still has full control of transfers in English football. In Spanish football, a political candidate could pledge that he&#039;d sign X, Y and Z. In English football, if the same candidate said that, the manager would tell him to go hang.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about how Spanish clubs run their elections, but I get the impression that they vote for a single candidate, who then gets the right to appoint everyone on the board. That all-or-nothing type of election leads to instability and the insane crazy promises (Cesc to Barca, Ronaldo to Real Madrid) that get made every election. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d suggest that a member-owned and run board need not be so autocractic. Take a board with 10 members, on 4 year terms. You could make voting proportional. Candidates could still have group tickets, but votes counted will be for individuals. Thus, if two groups feature strongly in the voting (and win 50% of the vote each), both would get representation on the board. Or you could stagger the elections so that half the board are elected at any one election, thus retaining some sort of continuity. </p>
<p>Plus, the difference between Spanish and English football is that the manager still has full control of transfers in English football. In Spanish football, a political candidate could pledge that he&#8217;d sign X, Y and Z. In English football, if the same candidate said that, the manager would tell him to go hang.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul C.</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 18:10:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>AGS - I think you are half right about Abramovich. I do not think he has any problem with the money he has already spent. When Roman took over Chelsea he paid only 140million. He must have seen Chelsea as a very undervalued asset and rightly figured that, given its location, if he could turn them around then they would be worth a lot more money than 140million. So the money he has invested already is pretty much offset by the current value of Chelsea FC on the open market. That is why he has converted all his debt to equity. If he sells the club now then he will get most, if not all, of his money back. 

Where Abramovich must be annoyed is in the fact that Chelsea are still completely dependent on him, unable to buy players without his cash, and almost completely devoid of youngsters coming through their system. 

Roman would see the money already spent as a wise investment. However the thought of further expenditure wouldnt be so welcome.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>AGS &#8211; I think you are half right about Abramovich. I do not think he has any problem with the money he has already spent. When Roman took over Chelsea he paid only 140million. He must have seen Chelsea as a very undervalued asset and rightly figured that, given its location, if he could turn them around then they would be worth a lot more money than 140million. So the money he has invested already is pretty much offset by the current value of Chelsea FC on the open market. That is why he has converted all his debt to equity. If he sells the club now then he will get most, if not all, of his money back. </p>
<p>Where Abramovich must be annoyed is in the fact that Chelsea are still completely dependent on him, unable to buy players without his cash, and almost completely devoid of youngsters coming through their system. </p>
<p>Roman would see the money already spent as a wise investment. However the thought of further expenditure wouldnt be so welcome.</p>
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		<title>By: LRV</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is one that asks how English the EPL truly is: http://www.stonecoldarsenal.com/2010/02/how-english-is-the-english-premier-league-part-i/#comment-1635

And this one tries to eaplain why Arsenal chose the &#039;Youth Policy&#039;: http://www.7amkickoff.com/2010/thoughts-on-why-arsenal-chose-the-youth-experiment-by-guest-columnist-grimbo/?utm_source=feedburner&amp;utm_medium=feed&amp;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+7amkickoff+%287amkickoff%29

I strong recommend these 2 articles. You&#039;ll most certainly find them interestingly informative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is one that asks how English the EPL truly is: <a href="http://www.stonecoldarsenal.com/2010/02/how-english-is-the-english-premier-league-part-i/#comment-1635" rel="nofollow">http://www.stonecoldarsenal.com/2010/02/how-english-is-the-english-premier-league-part-i/#comment-1635</a></p>
<p>And this one tries to eaplain why Arsenal chose the &#8216;Youth Policy&#8217;: <a href="http://www.7amkickoff.com/2010/thoughts-on-why-arsenal-chose-the-youth-experiment-by-guest-columnist-grimbo/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+7amkickoff+%287amkickoff%29" rel="nofollow">http://www.7amkickoff.com/2010/thoughts-on-why-arsenal-chose-the-youth-experiment-by-guest-columnist-grimbo/?utm_source=feedburner&#038;utm_medium=feed&#038;utm_campaign=Feed%3A+7amkickoff+%287amkickoff%29</a></p>
<p>I strong recommend these 2 articles. You&#8217;ll most certainly find them interestingly informative.</p>
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		<title>By: LRV</title>
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		<dc:creator>LRV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:46:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately, the societies in the world are structured to favour the corrupt, the crooked, the wicked and the heartless. A soft-hearted, reasonable or methodical person is always laughed at and bullied. No wonder they always proclaim Arsenal to have a soft underbelly.

There is no such thing as Common Sense. For if sense were common, everyone would have it. That&#039;s why people are pathetically unable to appreciate the quiet strategic revolution that is going on at Arsenal.

I read 2 very great articles today that put out great perspectives on our football development. If Tony would allow me, I will post the links,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately, the societies in the world are structured to favour the corrupt, the crooked, the wicked and the heartless. A soft-hearted, reasonable or methodical person is always laughed at and bullied. No wonder they always proclaim Arsenal to have a soft underbelly.</p>
<p>There is no such thing as Common Sense. For if sense were common, everyone would have it. That&#8217;s why people are pathetically unable to appreciate the quiet strategic revolution that is going on at Arsenal.</p>
<p>I read 2 very great articles today that put out great perspectives on our football development. If Tony would allow me, I will post the links,</p>
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		<title>By: aayush</title>
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		<dc:creator>aayush</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:39:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i just discovered the most amazing fact......a civil war in Nigeria was stopped for 48 hours so that the people could watch Pele play.
really it makes me believe in the power of football.......</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i just discovered the most amazing fact&#8230;&#8230;a civil war in Nigeria was stopped for 48 hours so that the people could watch Pele play.<br />
really it makes me believe in the power of football&#8230;&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: 0.9 Calibre</title>
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		<dc:creator>0.9 Calibre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 17:09:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Rhys: Although you make interesting points about the fan ownership and strict financial regulations, there is one fundamental problem that we forget to address- Anarchy!.. just imagine the future of a manager like Wenger would rest on the delicate balance between the divided support among us fans.. Thats why imo democracy is just a massive failure (although we&#039;re made to believe otherwise).. in terms of &quot;being run well&quot;, there is not a single democratic nation that fits the bill.. So the club can be run by two kinds of ppl.. 1) Like our board (Not so crazy) 2) Chavs et al. (he he!).. So in this case there is atleast a 50% chance that it&#039;ll be run efficiently.. none of our clubs in the EPL were owned by fans per se (My history is limited to the last decade and half), but there have been clubs where the fans have a huge say on vital issues..  The D&amp;Gs could run naked screaming for Wenger&#039;s head but it wont happen until the board decides so . There has been a lot of talk about Leeds but when it comes to theissue about &quot;fans running the clubs&quot; the classic example just has to be Newcastle FC.. They sacked one of the Greatest ever managers in football (RIP Sir Bobby) and from then on its been downhill!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Rhys: Although you make interesting points about the fan ownership and strict financial regulations, there is one fundamental problem that we forget to address- Anarchy!.. just imagine the future of a manager like Wenger would rest on the delicate balance between the divided support among us fans.. Thats why imo democracy is just a massive failure (although we&#8217;re made to believe otherwise).. in terms of &#8220;being run well&#8221;, there is not a single democratic nation that fits the bill.. So the club can be run by two kinds of ppl.. 1) Like our board (Not so crazy) 2) Chavs et al. (he he!).. So in this case there is atleast a 50% chance that it&#8217;ll be run efficiently.. none of our clubs in the EPL were owned by fans per se (My history is limited to the last decade and half), but there have been clubs where the fans have a huge say on vital issues..  The D&amp;Gs could run naked screaming for Wenger&#8217;s head but it wont happen until the board decides so . There has been a lot of talk about Leeds but when it comes to theissue about &#8220;fans running the clubs&#8221; the classic example just has to be Newcastle FC.. They sacked one of the Greatest ever managers in football (RIP Sir Bobby) and from then on its been downhill!!</p>
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		<title>By: AGS</title>
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		<dc:creator>AGS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 15:16:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If I was Roman Abramovic I would be absolutely gutted and pig sick by where Chelsea are today - over £700m pounds invested and yet they are faced with massive financial losses each year still, and now have a rapidly aging squad that will need to be rebuilt completely within the next 2 years or so. I would bet my life that if Abramovic could go back and start again, then he would adopt a model the same as Arsenal from day 1, rather than the buy everything that moves thats 25 yrs or older at top price, model. Thing is, he can&#039;t even build a new stadium so the only way to really increase revenues for them now is by continual hikes in season tickets which are already the most expensive around. And despite domestic success they are still no closer to winning the CL.
I also have a dream that one day Arsenal will field a team of completely home grown talent, incl. some British players, that goes on and dominates EPL and CL for a few years - much like that brilliant Ajax team of 1994/95 (Davids, Seedorf, Kluivert, Kanu, Van Der Sar, the De Boers, Bogarde, Overmars, Reizeger et al). What a team that was, and surely it must be all clubs ambition to field a team completely from its own ranks 
So I am happy that Arsenal go their own way and follow the path they have chosen - developing young talent, investing in the grass roots and scouting systems. Money is no guarantee of success and I remember back a few years when Liverpool were in the UEFA cup. they had been spending a good few millions even back then, but they met a Celta Vigo side that didn&#039;t contain a single player bought for more than £1m, and got completely played off the park in both legs (I think Celta may have even got to the final that year as well). Scouting and finding and blending good young players does work, so carry on Lord Wenger.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If I was Roman Abramovic I would be absolutely gutted and pig sick by where Chelsea are today &#8211; over £700m pounds invested and yet they are faced with massive financial losses each year still, and now have a rapidly aging squad that will need to be rebuilt completely within the next 2 years or so. I would bet my life that if Abramovic could go back and start again, then he would adopt a model the same as Arsenal from day 1, rather than the buy everything that moves thats 25 yrs or older at top price, model. Thing is, he can&#8217;t even build a new stadium so the only way to really increase revenues for them now is by continual hikes in season tickets which are already the most expensive around. And despite domestic success they are still no closer to winning the CL.<br />
I also have a dream that one day Arsenal will field a team of completely home grown talent, incl. some British players, that goes on and dominates EPL and CL for a few years &#8211; much like that brilliant Ajax team of 1994/95 (Davids, Seedorf, Kluivert, Kanu, Van Der Sar, the De Boers, Bogarde, Overmars, Reizeger et al). What a team that was, and surely it must be all clubs ambition to field a team completely from its own ranks<br />
So I am happy that Arsenal go their own way and follow the path they have chosen &#8211; developing young talent, investing in the grass roots and scouting systems. Money is no guarantee of success and I remember back a few years when Liverpool were in the UEFA cup. they had been spending a good few millions even back then, but they met a Celta Vigo side that didn&#8217;t contain a single player bought for more than £1m, and got completely played off the park in both legs (I think Celta may have even got to the final that year as well). Scouting and finding and blending good young players does work, so carry on Lord Wenger.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:29:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goonergerry, can you give me some examples where we have been Europe&#039;s best feeder club ? 
We have sold the young players who weren&#039;t good enough in the past years (and made money of them even when sold further on - eg Bentley to Spuds LOL). Not all can succeed and so get the chance of leaving us and build careers in other PL clubs.

The players that have left the last years like Hleb, Flamini, Toure and Adebayor are not players that have been in the youth teams so we didn&#039;t bring them up we bought them at a certain age and then sold them further for much money except Flamini.

So in fact non of our youth project players really have been sold to big European clubs yet. Don&#039;t talk about Cesc as he still is our captain and I have big belief in him and in his love for The Arsenal.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goonergerry, can you give me some examples where we have been Europe&#8217;s best feeder club ?<br />
We have sold the young players who weren&#8217;t good enough in the past years (and made money of them even when sold further on &#8211; eg Bentley to Spuds LOL). Not all can succeed and so get the chance of leaving us and build careers in other PL clubs.</p>
<p>The players that have left the last years like Hleb, Flamini, Toure and Adebayor are not players that have been in the youth teams so we didn&#8217;t bring them up we bought them at a certain age and then sold them further for much money except Flamini.</p>
<p>So in fact non of our youth project players really have been sold to big European clubs yet. Don&#8217;t talk about Cesc as he still is our captain and I have big belief in him and in his love for The Arsenal.</p>
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		<title>By: walter</title>
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		<dc:creator>walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:21:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks anaconda for the additional and intresting information. The thing you mentionned in your last comment was the thing I also had read somewhere but it was just reading and not really considered it important. Untill we play Barcelona in the next CL final. ;-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks anaconda for the additional and intresting information. The thing you mentionned in your last comment was the thing I also had read somewhere but it was just reading and not really considered it important. Untill we play Barcelona in the next CL final. <img src='http://blog.emiratesstadium.info/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Tony</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Goongerry...

My own personal belief is that 

1. The feeder system Wegner set up seven or eight years ago is now bringing up through a number of excellent youngsters, who will make the team in the next couple of years, thus saving us transfer fees.

2. The policy of buying young foreign players from Merida to the two bought last month, will also feed players through to the first team, again saving us money.

3. We can go out and buy if we need to - Arshavin is perhaps an example of this.

4. Since the Ems was built we now make more money per game even after the mortgage payments are made.  So financially on a month by month arrangement we are better off - which is why it was built.

5. In three years time Man U and Liverpool will be in such financial trouble they will be in administration or in retreat.  One way or another they will become like Leeds.  If we tried to follow them, we would do the same.

6. Chelsea and Man C are each dependant on the whim of one man who could at any time up sticks and leave.   Besides, Chelsea have repeatedly said that they want to be self-sufficient to meet with the requirements of UEFA but they have utterly failed to do this.  As things stand we have seen no strategy from them for making this happen and without it they will be stopped from entry to the Champs League.

You might disagree with some of my thoughts, but even if just half of them are true, we are on the edge of a new golden age.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Goongerry&#8230;</p>
<p>My own personal belief is that </p>
<p>1. The feeder system Wegner set up seven or eight years ago is now bringing up through a number of excellent youngsters, who will make the team in the next couple of years, thus saving us transfer fees.</p>
<p>2. The policy of buying young foreign players from Merida to the two bought last month, will also feed players through to the first team, again saving us money.</p>
<p>3. We can go out and buy if we need to &#8211; Arshavin is perhaps an example of this.</p>
<p>4. Since the Ems was built we now make more money per game even after the mortgage payments are made.  So financially on a month by month arrangement we are better off &#8211; which is why it was built.</p>
<p>5. In three years time Man U and Liverpool will be in such financial trouble they will be in administration or in retreat.  One way or another they will become like Leeds.  If we tried to follow them, we would do the same.</p>
<p>6. Chelsea and Man C are each dependant on the whim of one man who could at any time up sticks and leave.   Besides, Chelsea have repeatedly said that they want to be self-sufficient to meet with the requirements of UEFA but they have utterly failed to do this.  As things stand we have seen no strategy from them for making this happen and without it they will be stopped from entry to the Champs League.</p>
<p>You might disagree with some of my thoughts, but even if just half of them are true, we are on the edge of a new golden age.</p>
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		<title>By: anaconda</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 13:10:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>walter, this is from barcaforum about the arrests: &quot;a group called &quot;FCB Casuals&quot; who are the more extreme part of the BNs was recently targeted by the Mossos d&#039;Esquadra in relation to extortion and drug charges. Their leader is expected to spend around 10 years in prison.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>walter, this is from barcaforum about the arrests: &#8220;a group called &#8220;FCB Casuals&#8221; who are the more extreme part of the BNs was recently targeted by the Mossos d&#8217;Esquadra in relation to extortion and drug charges. Their leader is expected to spend around 10 years in prison.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: anaconda</title>
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		<dc:creator>anaconda</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2010 12:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh, and good points about there Rhys about the fan ownership and financial rules. The presidential election nonsense is clearly the downside of the fans ownership (or doing a Notts County), like the Boixos Nois -case shows as well (ex-members of the board have influenced them and tried to use them to get rid of Laporta). 

The fan ownership seems to work much more sensibly in Germany but I think they do have stricter rules. Exception being that outside investors can buy minority shareholdings. Like Audi, who owns a part of Bayern München. I think that Purslow dude in Liverpool is trying to achieve something similar, with very little success. I think also French League has strict financial rules? They are of course in trouble as well, because they have relied also on transfer fees from the big leagues.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh, and good points about there Rhys about the fan ownership and financial rules. The presidential election nonsense is clearly the downside of the fans ownership (or doing a Notts County), like the Boixos Nois -case shows as well (ex-members of the board have influenced them and tried to use them to get rid of Laporta). </p>
<p>The fan ownership seems to work much more sensibly in Germany but I think they do have stricter rules. Exception being that outside investors can buy minority shareholdings. Like Audi, who owns a part of Bayern München. I think that Purslow dude in Liverpool is trying to achieve something similar, with very little success. I think also French League has strict financial rules? They are of course in trouble as well, because they have relied also on transfer fees from the big leagues.</p>
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