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Comment on Arsenal’s transfer window experience, plus the “25″ and the 57 under 21s! by anders

anders — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 20:01:08 +0000

That’s good news Phil, and i applaud you for your effort. Please keep us informed of any more correspondence from them if you will. I think the protests need to gather more strength in the public domain now and with more voices added including us the supporters then we might see something happen. I suppose Tonys amazing blog is a great starting point for something to mushroom as journalists (using the word lightly) regularly come here to get ideas and rip off what they can. hmm, can we get them looked at while we’re at it? =)

Comment on Arsenal’s transfer window experience, plus the “25″ and the 57 under 21s! by Phil

Phil — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:44:10 +0000

I’ve already been writing to the MP for Culture and Sport and have had a reply so we might be getting somewhere. Whether they take note and act on what I’ve said, we’ll have to wait and see.

Comment on Arsenal’s transfer window experience, plus the “25″ and the 57 under 21s! by anders

anders — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:27:02 +0000

Excellent discussion, and very valid and well written arguments. I’d love to see all these points put together into a letter (of petition maybe – if i’d have any effect) addressed to the FA and all Premier league teams. I’m sure most if not all are aware of the consequences of the FAs inadequate governing but only Arsene Wenger, as far as i’m aware, has come out in protest. You seriously wonder how long the FAs incompetence can go unchallenged and I believe ultimately it’s going to be up to the clubs to join together and challenge the FA.

What are people’s views here on what is the best way to proceed in getting our concerns adequately voiced and acted upon?

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by Mohamed Zubairu

Mohamed Zubairu — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 19:23:45 +0000

Walter, believe me, human beings a basically fickle in their thinking. There are of course exceptions but fickleness is part of human nature. A lot of these moaning supporters joined the gooner family in the glory years. Now that we have not won a trophy in five years, they are exasperated. They are basically myopic.
In 3 to 5 years’ time when the youth policy would have started to divulged its fruits, these same vituperators would have done a 180% turn around and behave as if they are the best Arsenal and Wenger supporters of all times. Many a mouth will be made mute at the end of this season when the trophies start first, to trickle in, until the impending deluge of trophies.
I pray that we find a way to manage the avalanche of talents that will become established stars shortly. Arsenal will win trophies as well as become a selling club when we will not be able to contain our emerging stars.

Comment on Arsenal Worldwide is up, running and growing by paul geddes

paul geddes — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:38:38 +0000

hi! i was just reading your story about supporting the Arsenal from afar and thought i would add my little bit, im a kinda ex-pat north londoner-i grew up in Wembley-though im irish by nationality,i am 36 now and my earliest memories of being a gooner are the day that charlie nicholas signed and was welcomed on the pitch in fromt of the junior gunners of which i was one! im sure that i remember matches from before that and remember cheering goals and tackles but thats my totally clear 100 percent every moment of the day memory,fast foreward a few years and i was playing football in the various under 12 up to under 15 leagues in north london desperately wanting to be the next tony adams even though looking back he was only a few years older then me,at this stage arsenal was almost a religion,we had finally won a league and i could stand up to all the scouser fans in class at school in finchley-hardly merseyside is it-and proclaim my love of the arsenal far and wide,not that i didnt anyway i knew players down to their birthdays and thanks to the sun and mirror even their favourite drinks,it was all consuming,but life moves on and i eventually moved back to ireland,i was 24,i had spent years going to highbury and suddenly i was on the wey coast of ireland and had to rely on sky sports and very scratchy radio 5 for my fix,and this was at the start of the wenger era,i was excited bout this fella named after the arsenal,sick of rioch and his sgt major approach but could not see my team! it was a situation involving monster phone bills and my mom in london sitting with the radio on so i could hear matches,do you remember anelkas scoring run ad bergkamp living up to his god title,big tone was like a colossus and i couldnt et to highbury,eventually i got a routine, i got back to london when i could, sky improved and started showing more arsenal games and today fm in ireland had live football on saturdays,life footie wise was not perfect but it was improving..
two years ago,when the recession kicked in i decided it was time for a change and moved 35 miles north of stockholm in sweden,long story that move the the short of it is, the Arsenal in swedish,talk of limpar everywhere,and thank god the internet,streaming of matches and a english ip address on my computer so i can listen to bbc radio 5 live and bbc london,there is something surreal about listening to the gooners in a forest (where my house is) screaming my head off at a percieved infraction of one of the lads by some northern monkey in the middle of november with 5 foot of snow outside and my long suffering girlfriend looking on with resignation on her face at my antics-rugby supporter that she is-but thats the lot of a ex north bank boy..
anyway thought i would share the brief(or not so brief come to think of it)story of this globe trotting gooner,i have found a few pubs in stockholm that show the premiership but to be honest they are more interested in ice hocky or”zlatan”, its not n5 but somewhere there is a corner of a foreign field that is still england,or at least highbury

Comment on Arsenal Worldwide is up, running and growing by Highbury Boy

Highbury Boy — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:38:34 +0000

let’s go out and dominate the world.

Comment on Arsenal Worldwide is up, running and growing by Armin

Armin — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:33:11 +0000

And don’t worry wife wont leave you if catch you reading it (tested).

Comment on Arsenal Worldwide is up, running and growing by Pakistani Gooner

Pakistani Gooner — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:31:00 +0000

matey! Pakistan please too? tonnes o gooners here!

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by AK

AK — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:16:13 +0000

Hey Walter they people dont belong to us,They just pretend to be gunners,they are not even “so called” supporters. IMO those are just anti arsenal sites them pretend to be supporters (which actually them are not) and just creating some fuss between the real Arsenal supporters.Well what i think is (Media or some spuds supporters are running those sites) cuz as far as i am concern a real supporter cant do those worse things which i have seen over and over again. if we are thinking that we should be forgiving our own Gooners so its not the case cuz our own gooners arent doing those things,its just some outside people whom are doing those anti things.I think we should come up with some different ideas to fight them back cuz ignoring them or forgiving them isnt gonna stop them.
Sorry for my bad english Walter and you all GOONERS.

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by Paul C.

Paul C. — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:15:02 +0000

Gunner 71 – see, your post is exactly why people have to be careful about calling our manager names just because he hasnt done what YOU like. It is just opinion, and our manager must act on his own opinion.

For instance, my own opinion is that Stekelenberg is a lot of nothing. A very, very average ‘keeper who is only in the Dutch side because they do not have a good young ‘keeper to replace VDS. I do not think he is any better than Fabianski, let alone Almunia.

Marchetti – this is an easy one. His club put a massive price tag on him and NOBODY bid for him. His club made it clear he was for sale and NOBODY bid for him. What does that tell you? There were rumors we were going to bid 5m, and his club valued him at 12m. That is a massive difference.

Lloris – why do people keep bringing him up. His club said he wasnt for sale and he personally said he didnt want to go anywhere. End of story. Why would you blame AW for not getting Lloris. HE WASNT FOR SALE!!!!

Schwarzer – we bid and Fulham said no. End of story. You only go back with a higher price if you think the player is worth the higher price. The question was “is Schwarzer more than 2m better than Almunia?”. The manager thought he wasnt.

12million is a HUGE amount of money for ANY player. People have seen their expectations distorted by Chelsea and City and Real Madrid. To pay 12million for a ‘keeper you had better be sure they are Seaman/Schmeichel quality. Are you sure that any of the guys above are that quality?

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by JeromJ.

JeromJ. — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:14:47 +0000

I’ve already commented the part about Schwarzer being the right price already, and as mentioned by Paul C. already earlier,

“Hugo Lloris and Igor Akinfeev, the two best probably, were not available. What can you do?”

And to be frank, I dont think the like of Lloris and Akinfeev nor Maarten Stekelnburg is appropriate for Arsenal. As mentioned by plenty of other commentors before, they would only further stunt the growth of the younger keepers such as Mannone and szczesny.

Who is Marchelli? I can’t even find him on google..

Back to the bit about Schwarzer being the right price, and again having to repeat myself, Fulham couldnt find a replacement for him to make the transfer, or have you not noticed that David Stockdale was injured? Would you transfer out your keeper, without a replacement, if your 1st choice goal keeper is already injured? I’m sure even you wouldnt want to compete in the premier league with only 1 keeper and that be your natural 3rd choice keeper.

Comment on Arsenal Worldwide is up, running and growing by Dark Prince

Dark Prince — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 18:10:53 +0000

Superlike!! Gunners for life!!

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by gunner 71

gunner 71 — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:50:00 +0000

Hi Jerome – a bit lazy to do the research ? OK I’ll do it for you. Maarten Stekelnburg, Marchelli, Lloris and Mark Schwarzer (better than Almunia)plus a host of others were not all exactly going for silly money were they ? Neither is Schwarzer the only keeper in the market. And what is silly money ? is £12m silly money for a world class goalie if you feel that money can help you win the premiership ? And to address your first point – in the market you try to make a player available by making an enquiry with the price you want to pay. The club either refuses it, expects you to come back with a higher price or accepts your price. This is what happened with Squilachi – or have you forgotten ? He was never available in the first place, Arsenal made him available !

And with all due respects Walter, I never compared calling someone AAA in the same breathe as raining silly abuses on a man who after all have done so much for Arsenal football club. I had already said I do not condone these immature behaviour, but what are our great manager’s real priorities ? Is it to satisfy the shareholders or field a team that can really compete for the major honours ? I believe Arsene Knows Best (AKB) for the shareholders that is why the board loves him so much. However, I do accept that my commoner’s views will be laughed off with disdain since Arsene did say last season that the board are his paymasters and not the fans. But I still owe it to readers to air these views.

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by walter

walter — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:17:25 +0000

And Gunner71, I do think I have written in my article using the phrase ‘I can forgive them’ that I have nothing against the supporter who is dying to win something and want to move heaven and earth to reach this. And yes they are also good Arsenal fans for me. I have a different opinion but fine for me.

I was only talking about the people who disgrace all the Arsenal fans in the world by abusing Wenger in such a way. Because by abusing Wenger in such a way they also abuse the average Arsenal supporter. Would you like it to be linked with Hitler because you are an Arsenal supporter? I dont. But if you say our manager (=leader) is Hitler than that means that we the fans are his followers and thus nazis.

And yes you are right: I cannot tell them to not support Arsenal no more but I cannot feel related to them when they behave like that. And I think I have the right to tell this to the world.

A right I have not on their website anymore. Not because I have insulted anyone (no it was me that got the insults but not of the Hitler type) but because I asked the wrong questions at the wrong persons.

Comment on Arsenal’s transfer window experience, plus the “25″ and the 57 under 21s! by Gooner Gal

Gooner Gal — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:12:53 +0000

Phil, I hope the government take note because football contributes a lot the British economy and interferance from the could potentially damage the quality of the EPL. If something isn’t said or done I doubt the FA will stop here, where will it end? Next it will be you have to name 8 player in squad before each match, then field 8 english players every match, for at least 8 minutes in 8 consecutives matches.

If what common sensei @ 1.07pm says is true, you’ll have to write to Rupert Murdoch

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by walter

walter — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 17:03:33 +0000

Gunner71, with all respect I do think that calling someone AAA is not the same as comparing our manager with Hitler and other massmurderers.

And certainly when AW himself had said that he was looking but if noone want to sell there is nothing you can do or he can do about it. And then to say he is a Hitler or Mugabe and god knows which names has been mentioned as I really have stopped reading after that, is something that is beyond me.

People call me an AKB and they can call me like that. In fact I think it is what we call a “geuzennaam’ in my language. A name first given and what was meant to be an insult is now for me a name I carry with pride. As I really do think that Arsene Knows Best and certainly far better than we all know and most of the people who insult him know.

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by JeromJ.

JeromJ. — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:59:23 +0000

To your last statement, he was right on the mark about Schwarzer being 2 million, why else would Fulham be looking for a replacement in Given? Fulham were willing to do the transfer, it was only the lack of replacement that was stopping them.

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by JeromJ.

JeromJ. — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:56:14 +0000

Name me some that were available to leave, and are actually better than Almunia that doesn’t cost silly money

Comment on Man City was 40% of the transfer window this year. What the hell happens now? by Wrenny

Wrenny — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:54:20 +0000

@Paul C
Buying those kinds of ready-made players would also a big waste of Wenger’s biggest quality, which is his ability to nurture talent. He has never been a chequebook manager, and never will be, no matter how rich Arsenal become.

A manager like Wenger and ‘Galactico’ signings just aren’t a good fit. That approach works for Mourinho and others, whose man-management skills can turn talented but selfish individuals into a strong and hard-working team , but it’s not Wenger’s way of doing things. His strength is in taking young players and moulding them into a team which plays seamless flowing football.

Comment on Forgive? Yes. But with supporters there is still a limit by Gooneraside

Gooneraside — Thu, 02 Sep 2010 16:54:11 +0000

I simply stopped reading LeGroan.

I realised that they gave me no news, nothing new, just dyspepsia. That I don’t forgive.